Rust and crud on cams from winter storage?
I know absolutely nothing, but I'd pull the cams and clean up, not with sandpaper, but with a scotch pad and maybe something like Eastwood's Fast-etch rust dissolver. Then I would take to a machine shop to see if the lobes can be polished. But if there remains one single spec of rust pitting in the cam lobes, I'd join the chorus that they are junk.
Water is a bi-product of combustion and if the engine doesn't get hot enough to evaporate it all away, rust is the likely result. Try never to start your summer cars in the winter; and if I do, I run them until all the steam coming out of the exhaust is gone.
Water is a bi-product of combustion and if the engine doesn't get hot enough to evaporate it all away, rust is the likely result. Try never to start your summer cars in the winter; and if I do, I run them until all the steam coming out of the exhaust is gone.
Have you ever seen water dripping out of someone's tail pipe in winter?
With H2O being water, "a hydrocarbon combustion reaction looks like this
HxCyOz + O2 => H2O + CO2
Obviously this is not a balanced equation, and I'm sure you could do a bit of algebra to figure out the balanced equation for any hydrocarbon, but I won't."
And it isn't just plain water... "some of that carbon dioxide will become dissolved in the water to form a dilute carbonic acid".
When I store my S for the winter, I also cover the air intake and the exhaust tips, not so much for water vapor but for the squirrels and mice.
With H2O being water, "a hydrocarbon combustion reaction looks like this
HxCyOz + O2 => H2O + CO2
Obviously this is not a balanced equation, and I'm sure you could do a bit of algebra to figure out the balanced equation for any hydrocarbon, but I won't."

And it isn't just plain water... "some of that carbon dioxide will become dissolved in the water to form a dilute carbonic acid".

When I store my S for the winter, I also cover the air intake and the exhaust tips, not so much for water vapor but for the squirrels and mice.
So the your cams went from normal to this in 3 days?
The oil that's left on the cam towers & bolts looks like milk, maybe you have a huge coolant leak and your oil is more coolant than oil.
I'm not sure coolant can be that corrosive to iron in 3 days, you have rust build up in the mm thickness.
Now at 72K miles. That picture was taken <50K miles doing Billman's valve adjust on drive by wire cars (mine is an 09). I might add it was a good thing I did it then, the exhaust valves were indeed tight. I checked again around 65K miles and the picture was the same as this: no change.
I might add I have always used Mobil 1 0W-30 and change it every 3K miles.
I might add I have always used Mobil 1 0W-30 and change it every 3K miles.
Have you ever seen water dripping out of someone's tail pipe in winter?
With H2O being water, "a hydrocarbon combustion reaction looks like this
HxCyOz + O2 => H2O + CO2
Obviously this is not a balanced equation, and I'm sure you could do a bit of algebra to figure out the balanced equation for any hydrocarbon, but I won't."
And it isn't just plain water... "some of that carbon dioxide will become dissolved in the water to form a dilute carbonic acid".
When I store my S for the winter, I also cover the air intake and the exhaust tips, not so much for water vapor but for the squirrels and mice.
With H2O being water, "a hydrocarbon combustion reaction looks like this
HxCyOz + O2 => H2O + CO2
Obviously this is not a balanced equation, and I'm sure you could do a bit of algebra to figure out the balanced equation for any hydrocarbon, but I won't."

And it isn't just plain water... "some of that carbon dioxide will become dissolved in the water to form a dilute carbonic acid".

When I store my S for the winter, I also cover the air intake and the exhaust tips, not so much for water vapor but for the squirrels and mice.
You're talking about the picture in post #1?
So the your cams went from normal to this in 3 days?
The oil that's left on the cam towers & bolts looks like milk, maybe you have a huge coolant leak and your oil is more coolant than oil.
I'm not sure coolant can be that corrosive to iron in 3 days, you have rust build up in the mm thickness.

So the your cams went from normal to this in 3 days?
The oil that's left on the cam towers & bolts looks like milk, maybe you have a huge coolant leak and your oil is more coolant than oil.
I'm not sure coolant can be that corrosive to iron in 3 days, you have rust build up in the mm thickness.

I'm taking the cams over to the machine shop on Monday to see if they can clean them up and save them. Otherwise I'll be tossing them in the trash and buying cams.
Just a couple quick updates. 1. I stopped by the local machine shop and both guys there shook their heads and just said (like most of you) to scrap these cams. 2. I emptied my catch can and it was full.............. of water. Major fail on my part.
I guess I'll either try to find a pair of good used AP2 cams, or just order some new Brian Crower cams.
I guess I'll either try to find a pair of good used AP2 cams, or just order some new Brian Crower cams.
I have no personal experience with the BC cams but personally, I would not use a set (of ANY aftermarket cams) if they were given to me. I have seen other instances of premature wear and oil contamination with other manufacturers. OEM FTW for me!
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