S2000 OEM Oil Filter Summary-New 2021 version
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I am now a beliver that you could use allmost all honda or aftermarket filters, as long as they have the honda specific double-metall ring and "P" shaped gasket and as long as you consider the S2000 specific torque.
Follow my advice at you own risk.
Some members in the german community use the small MANN W610/6 filter for years and report no problems, as long as you thight it with a little bit extra force.
https://catalog.mann-filter.com/EU/g...lter/W%20610~6
The 610/6 is the dedicated Honda car filter from MANN. But using this filter is to much of a risk in my opinion, because it dont have the double-metall ring and "P" shaped gasket.
Follow my advice at you own risk.
Some members in the german community use the small MANN W610/6 filter for years and report no problems, as long as you thight it with a little bit extra force.
https://catalog.mann-filter.com/EU/g...lter/W%20610~6
The 610/6 is the dedicated Honda car filter from MANN. But using this filter is to much of a risk in my opinion, because it dont have the double-metall ring and "P" shaped gasket.
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No, no, really, that the W 610/6, the dedicated Honda filter from MANN. The picture is abolutely correct.
If you click here https://catalog.mann-filter.com/EU/g...lter/W%20610~6
at "Verwendung" (usage for..) and then click on "Honda", you see that this filter is meant for all Hondas, also the S2000.
It really has this regular square shaped rubber gasket. Like every other oil filter. I used this filter often on my del Sol, nothing to complain.
For sure this filter works well on every Accord, Civic.. you name it. I am still doutbfull that there is a tiny risk that i may come loose on the S2000, but as i wrote, some members in the german communitiy use(d) it and dont have problems.
But i am sceptical, too. I just want to show that we maybe overthinking this oil filter thing a little bit.
What i could tell for sure is, that i had very bad luck with the PCX-004 filter. It seems that i had 2 or 3 filters in a row with a bad anti drainback valve. Every time when i start the engine, the oil light needs 1 or even 2 seconds to get off. In some cases, i could even here the valve train starts to clatter until the oil pressure light comes off.
As we all know, the most wear on engiens happens on cold start. Therefore, it is critical that the egine builds up oil pressure as quick as possible. Every second counts.
Out of curiosity, i installed the MANN W 610/6 for 2 tank fills and the problems are gone. The Oil light gets off "in the blink of a eye" every time i started the engine.
While this expirement was a success and proved that the PCX-004 sufferd from bad anti drain back valves, i am doubtfull about the risk that the W 610/6 maybe come loose becaue of the simple square shaped rubber gasket. Therefore i will not use it again.
If you click here https://catalog.mann-filter.com/EU/g...lter/W%20610~6
at "Verwendung" (usage for..) and then click on "Honda", you see that this filter is meant for all Hondas, also the S2000.
It really has this regular square shaped rubber gasket. Like every other oil filter. I used this filter often on my del Sol, nothing to complain.
For sure this filter works well on every Accord, Civic.. you name it. I am still doutbfull that there is a tiny risk that i may come loose on the S2000, but as i wrote, some members in the german communitiy use(d) it and dont have problems.
But i am sceptical, too. I just want to show that we maybe overthinking this oil filter thing a little bit.
What i could tell for sure is, that i had very bad luck with the PCX-004 filter. It seems that i had 2 or 3 filters in a row with a bad anti drainback valve. Every time when i start the engine, the oil light needs 1 or even 2 seconds to get off. In some cases, i could even here the valve train starts to clatter until the oil pressure light comes off.
As we all know, the most wear on engiens happens on cold start. Therefore, it is critical that the egine builds up oil pressure as quick as possible. Every second counts.
Out of curiosity, i installed the MANN W 610/6 for 2 tank fills and the problems are gone. The Oil light gets off "in the blink of a eye" every time i started the engine.
While this expirement was a success and proved that the PCX-004 sufferd from bad anti drain back valves, i am doubtfull about the risk that the W 610/6 maybe come loose becaue of the simple square shaped rubber gasket. Therefore i will not use it again.
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I send e-mails to MANN and talked to them about the problems that the oil filters at the S2000 are notorius for coming loose because of vibration and that i am doubtfull that the W 610/6 fits.
They assured me twice(!) that the W 610/6 is the correct filter for the S2000. But they told me that the manufacturer of the car is responsible for the torque values that you should use when insatlling the oil filter.
Good luck to remove the W610/6 when you have thigtend it with S2000 specific torque.
They assured me twice(!) that the W 610/6 is the correct filter for the S2000. But they told me that the manufacturer of the car is responsible for the torque values that you should use when insatlling the oil filter.
Good luck to remove the W610/6 when you have thigtend it with S2000 specific torque.
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I send e-mails to MANN and talked to them about the problems that the oil filters at the S2000 are notorius for coming loose because of vibration and that i am doubtfull that the W 610/6 fits.
They assured me twice(!) that the W 610/6 is the correct filter for the S2000. But they told me that the manufacturer of the car is responsible for the torque values that you should use when insatlling the oil filter.
Good luck to remove the W610/6 when you have thigtend it with S2000 specific torque.
They assured me twice(!) that the W 610/6 is the correct filter for the S2000. But they told me that the manufacturer of the car is responsible for the torque values that you should use when insatlling the oil filter.
Good luck to remove the W610/6 when you have thigtend it with S2000 specific torque.
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Will other filters fit? Yes.
Will they resist the enormous pressure and volume of the S2000 engine at 6000+ RPM, to keep the internal bypass closed? Very unlikely.
When a filter reaches its pressure threshold, it overcomes the bypass spring and sends unfiltered oil into the engine. So yes you can use different filters, but you might as well run a metal can as a filter, as it will not filter the oil.
The S2000 specific filters are made to filter oil at the extremes of this engine. I have complete confidence in the new 15400-PCX-306 baby blue.
Who wants to guess the RPM of the S2000 oil pump?
Will they resist the enormous pressure and volume of the S2000 engine at 6000+ RPM, to keep the internal bypass closed? Very unlikely.
When a filter reaches its pressure threshold, it overcomes the bypass spring and sends unfiltered oil into the engine. So yes you can use different filters, but you might as well run a metal can as a filter, as it will not filter the oil.
The S2000 specific filters are made to filter oil at the extremes of this engine. I have complete confidence in the new 15400-PCX-306 baby blue.
Who wants to guess the RPM of the S2000 oil pump?
I am just a very curious person. When i am doubtfull, i often want to explore things by myself. Sometimes i annoy people becaue of this.
What i really found interesting is, that you could found almost ZERO information in the internet about the function of the Bypas Valve in Oil Flters.
Some say they are designed specific for a engine, some say the filter manufacturers just use a "one size fits all" approach, depending on the filter media they use.
At the internet forum "Bob is the oil Guy" are three members with a huge knowledge about oil filters. "ZeeOSix", "ABN_CBT_ENGR" and "Ascent Filtration Testing".
I asked about the setting of the bypass valve regarding the S2000 filter, here is the answer:
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/th.../#post-5579109
However, i was in search for a replacment for the bad performing -004 filter, i think i maybe will just give the new -306 a try.
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That is a extremly interesting read and a lot of work of some members from "Bob is the Oil guy" about oil filters:
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/th...-burst.334882/
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/th...-burst.334882/