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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 04:37 AM
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Hello, Found a good sourse for a second hand s2000 engine and thinking of putting it into a kit car. I know it's not to poular on here, but here me out. Is there such a thing as a seperate ECU that will run just the engine as i'v heard there are problems when running the engine out of a honda as it runs everthing.... Anyone know it it can be done, and how much??

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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 04:49 AM
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most stand alone after market ecu will be able to run the engine
here are some
www.aempower.com
www.microtechefi.com
www.motec.com

btw what kit car are you building?
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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 06:25 AM
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I have a tiger super six currently runing a 1600 pinto engine runnin about 120bhp, lookin for a bit more.... don't supose anyone knows of anyone who has already done it?
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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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check with "chris barry" from http://www.prbaustralia.com.au/
his s2k clubman should hopefully be completed
hmmmm.....
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 05:46 AM
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One of the S2Ki members, I think jimknapp, has used an F20C in a 250 MPH race car. I think he is using a Motec.
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 12:04 AM
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Yes,

My F20c powered clubman is getting close to driving stage. Just have to finish off a few loose ends and I'll take it for a drive without the bodywork installed.

If you dont need to meet strict emissions standards there are lots of computers that are capable of running the F20C. I prefer the Motec computer as I like the goodies like traction and launch control. You may have to make a minor modification to one of the camshaft position sensors as most aftermarket computers only want to see a single pulse per camshaft revolution. The Vtec is controlled by a simple soleniod that is either on/off so thats easy to control from most computers.

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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 03:58 AM
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the aem works like a gem and only a fraction of the aem too chris
it has both of those features you mentioned
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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Honda9K,

The AEM is listed at just over $2000 USD which is the same as a Motec with advanced tuning (I get dealer pricing). I guess they charge a premium for the Motec over there.

The AEM does have the advantage that it plugs in directly without any wiring changes ( provided the engine comes with enough of the original wiring) . It also seems to have a good selection of inputs and outputs. I'm intrigued as to how the traction control works without any wheelspeed sensors. I would have expected the computer would need to know the front wheelspeed. I guess it looks for sudden changes in rear wheelspeed.

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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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The AEM should be a lot cheaper than that. AEM recommended price is too high for what you can get. Try www.HorsepowerFreaks.com. They have looked after me well. It would be nice if you could distribute the aem ems too

I am not competent with this traction control function yet. I am still in the learning phase with this unit. Everything seems to work the way it should be so far. O2 feedback, launch control and traction control will be my next agenda. I wish I am as free as last year.

I am not too sure if you can setup the traction control on the clubman. Does it have an individual VSS for each wheel? How does the motec control traction?

Good news that your clubman is almost ready. I can't hardly wait to see it up and running. You certainly took a lot of TLC with that car.

BTW my car is back on the road and running great for the past few months
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 10:01 PM
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The traction control uses allowable acceleration rates for gear and RPM to decide when to retard ignition. You set the limits via the software.
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