Too much oil
Went to change oil a few weeks back.
Brought my own oil. Being naive, I thought they'd be able to supply the filter (pcx-004), instead they brought out a flimsy, small filter that they claimed to put on all the cars they serviced
My dealership also supplies Mugen parts, and they guarantee them too.
I figured a Mugen filter, with its supposed 'sportiness' would probably provide more filtration than the flimsy universal filter; so I had them install that while I waited for my filters to arrive from HTG. After the filter and oil change, the oil level was at the "H" LETTER -- not the mark. It was slightly above the mark and almost at the top of the "H".
Car was driven normally for 1448kms in this condition.
My filters arrived today and I took the S in for the change.
When they changed the filter, they ballparked the amount and added some oil, ran the car a bit, stopped it, checked the level, etc.
Since I'm a curious UTH newbie, I asked them to show me the dipstick so I knew where my level was before I began driving to tell if the car is burning any oil or not.
The oil level was above the H, all the way up to the part where the dipstick changes "gauge" -- I'm guessing its probably at and above that level too but the round part of the dipstick isn't really good at showing oil level (remember, this is just a guess).
For now, everything is running A-OK.
I drove normally (VTEC, the works) until I reached my girlfriend's house and looked up "oil level" here on S2Ki, now I know not to engage VTEC when above the H mark. I've since scheduled time with a mechanic tomorrow morning first thing, I'm going to have him remove enough oil to hit the H mark, and not a millimeter above.
Questions:
1) What could using the Mugen filter (non-s2000 compliant according to the Mugen catalog) for 1448kms have done?
2) What could the excess oil have done? What might it do?
3) Do you think there has been enough fooling around to just warrant a complete oil change using the oil filter I had installed today? A clean slate, so to speak?
4) In one of the threads I read, a user suggested looking at the PCV valve to see the effects of overfilling an engine with oil. Should I have them change the PCV valve tomorrow?
Notes:
-I try so hard to keep my car in pristine condition, but its as if the dealership has a contract with satan to mess up my car. BTW, I made the schedule at a different dealership for tomorrow, if all goes well I won't be going back.
-Car didn't burn any oil until first change; didn't burn any oil in the 1448kms with the Mugen filter.
-Car has 8712km (5445mi) on the clock.
Brought my own oil. Being naive, I thought they'd be able to supply the filter (pcx-004), instead they brought out a flimsy, small filter that they claimed to put on all the cars they serviced

My dealership also supplies Mugen parts, and they guarantee them too.
I figured a Mugen filter, with its supposed 'sportiness' would probably provide more filtration than the flimsy universal filter; so I had them install that while I waited for my filters to arrive from HTG. After the filter and oil change, the oil level was at the "H" LETTER -- not the mark. It was slightly above the mark and almost at the top of the "H".
Car was driven normally for 1448kms in this condition.
My filters arrived today and I took the S in for the change.
When they changed the filter, they ballparked the amount and added some oil, ran the car a bit, stopped it, checked the level, etc.
Since I'm a curious UTH newbie, I asked them to show me the dipstick so I knew where my level was before I began driving to tell if the car is burning any oil or not.
The oil level was above the H, all the way up to the part where the dipstick changes "gauge" -- I'm guessing its probably at and above that level too but the round part of the dipstick isn't really good at showing oil level (remember, this is just a guess).
For now, everything is running A-OK.
I drove normally (VTEC, the works) until I reached my girlfriend's house and looked up "oil level" here on S2Ki, now I know not to engage VTEC when above the H mark. I've since scheduled time with a mechanic tomorrow morning first thing, I'm going to have him remove enough oil to hit the H mark, and not a millimeter above.
Questions:
1) What could using the Mugen filter (non-s2000 compliant according to the Mugen catalog) for 1448kms have done?
2) What could the excess oil have done? What might it do?
3) Do you think there has been enough fooling around to just warrant a complete oil change using the oil filter I had installed today? A clean slate, so to speak?
4) In one of the threads I read, a user suggested looking at the PCV valve to see the effects of overfilling an engine with oil. Should I have them change the PCV valve tomorrow?
Notes:
-I try so hard to keep my car in pristine condition, but its as if the dealership has a contract with satan to mess up my car. BTW, I made the schedule at a different dealership for tomorrow, if all goes well I won't be going back.
-Car didn't burn any oil until first change; didn't burn any oil in the 1448kms with the Mugen filter.
-Car has 8712km (5445mi) on the clock.
If you overfill your car with oil, and drive easy very easy till it burns off you will be OK.
If you run the car hard with that much oil, the oil will heat up and expand, its already full......so when it expands the oil will find the weakest part of the engine, at which point it will blow out your rings. usually its gaskets, rings, anything of that nature that will rupture due to the pressure.
Same concept as putting a glass of water in the freezer, when it freezes it will break the glass. Just because your ok right now doesnt mean your safe, empty it out a bit and your ok.
If you run the car hard with that much oil, the oil will heat up and expand, its already full......so when it expands the oil will find the weakest part of the engine, at which point it will blow out your rings. usually its gaskets, rings, anything of that nature that will rupture due to the pressure.
Same concept as putting a glass of water in the freezer, when it freezes it will break the glass. Just because your ok right now doesnt mean your safe, empty it out a bit and your ok.
His MY06 will probably not use any oil. The biggest problem with overfilled oil is that it will froth as the top of oil is beaten to death. Foamy oil does not lubricate. It's like having oil starvation.
Just let some out to get it between the H and the L. Contrary to popular belief, the oil is NOT low until below the L.
Just let some out to get it between the H and the L. Contrary to popular belief, the oil is NOT low until below the L.
Originally Posted by davidvonyork,Oct 30 2006, 03:42 PM
If you run the car hard with that much oil, the oil will heat up and expand, its already full......so when it expands the oil will find the weakest part of the engine, at which point it will blow out your rings. usually its gaskets, rings, anything of that nature that will rupture due to the pressure.
Same concept as putting a glass of water in the freezer, when it freezes it will break the glass. Just because your ok right now doesnt mean your safe, empty it out a bit and your ok.
Same concept as putting a glass of water in the freezer, when it freezes it will break the glass. Just because your ok right now doesnt mean your safe, empty it out a bit and your ok.
The main problem with high oil level is foaming, caused by the crankshaft whipping air into the oil. These tiny bubbles compress under pressure and do not lubricate very well. Thus, your oil pressure decreases, but the biggest concern is lack of lubrication to engine components under load.
I agree that you should drain the oil to the correct level.
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Unfortunately I don't have any place to jack the car up & get under it.
I would LOVE to do my own work, I just don't have any space to do it in.
I do as much as I can with the space I have -- I do my own interior detailing.
Just thinking of owning a proper, personal closed garage with a lift, sets of tools just makes me drool =] hopefully, one day.
I would LOVE to do my own work, I just don't have any space to do it in.
I do as much as I can with the space I have -- I do my own interior detailing.
Just thinking of owning a proper, personal closed garage with a lift, sets of tools just makes me drool =] hopefully, one day.







