S2000 Under The Hood S2000 Technical and Mechanical discussions.

tranny problem!

Old Aug 11, 2007 | 02:44 PM
  #1  
erijoe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 129
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte
Default tranny problem!

don't know if the sincros are bad or something else because it is hard to get it into gear specially the 1st and 2nd and reverse, with some effort i'll get it in but sometimes when changing from 1st to 2nd there is a grind (with the engine off i can go through the gear with no problem)..i already change the tranny( used MTF from honda), clutch, and differential fluid but is still the same thing ahh and when i'm getting it into gear i hear a low hissing sound that it wasnt there before..what could the problem be and how much i'm gonna spend for this..thanks..
ps my 00 s2k has 78000 miles.. i did search for answer but most of the people with this problem dont say what was the solution, and some of them was fixed by a simple change of fluid..
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2007 | 02:55 AM
  #2  
slipstream444's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,491
Likes: 11
From: Pensacola
Default

Originally Posted by erijoe,Aug 11 2007, 04:44 PM
don't know if the sincros are bad or something else because it is hard to get it into gear specially the 1st and 2nd and reverse, with some effort i'll get it in but sometimes when changing from 1st to 2nd there is a grind (with the engine off i can go through the gear with no problem)..i already change the tranny, clutch, and differential fluid but is still the same thing ahh and when i'm getting it into gear i hear a low hissing sound..what could the problem be and how much i'm gonna spend for this..thanks..
ps my 00 s2k has 78000 miles
It's important to search your topic prior to posting. Everyone wants a microwave oven response - but put out the effort, read about your problem, and then come to the plate with questions that weren't answered in previous posts.

If you've done a search - please state that in your post so you don't get the above note.
The search function can be painful (sifting through the false-positive hits) - but it works. Trust me, there's a LOT of information on your problem.

With all that said...

Rule of thumb with any problem - go from the simplest fix to the most complex.
You did this by changing fluids.
That didn't work for you so the next step would be to try a different transmission fluid. The best options are Honda's new MTF, Amsoil MTF (www.amsoil.com), or GM Synchromesh Friction Modified (GMSMFM in the forums). Do a search on these fluids to get more info.

The next step becomes more expensive and takes a trained (trusted) professional (or someone with a lot of experience) to troubleshoot.

A worn clutch can sometimes unmask problems with weak or damaged synchros before the clutch fully advertises its about to die on you. However, a worn clutch would likely show problems in more than 1st, 2nd, and reverse gears. You mentioned you changed the clutch fluid - but I'm assuming the clutch is the factory one.
The "hissing" sound might be one or more of the bearings making noise (possibly a worn throw-out bearing...) I couldn't say for sure unless I heard it in person. It could be a noise you didn't pay attention to until you started having problems, it could be any number of things - it's hard to say.

If changing to another fluid doesn't resolve (or at least improve) the problem - you may consider replacing the clutch (disc, pressure plate, throw out bearing, pilot bearing, pressure plate bolts, flywheel bolts if you have it removed for resurfacing - always) if it's the original clutch.
Here's something to consider though - the most expensive part of the clutch job on the S2000 is the labor to remove and re-install the transmission. Depending on your finances - you may want to consider replacing or repairing the transmission while it's out.
A low-mileage transmission typically runs around $1500 (from a reputable source). The Hard Top Guy is a great source: http://www.hardtopguy.com/store/home.php?cat=11
Jeff is the owner - I bought an '04 transmission from him for my '03 - Fantastic vendor!
Good luck.
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2007 | 03:24 AM
  #3  
CoralDoc's Avatar
Registered User
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 4,467
Likes: 3
From: Davie, FL
Default

Here's an easy and inexpensive thing to check - make certain that your clutch fluid is flushed and bled properly. The clutch is not easy to bleed, so make sure it's done correctly.
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2007 | 10:29 AM
  #4  
erijoe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 129
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte
Default

edited
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2007 | 10:57 AM
  #5  
slipstream444's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,491
Likes: 11
From: Pensacola
Default

Originally Posted by CoralDoc,Aug 12 2007, 05:24 AM
Here's an easy and inexpensive thing to check - make certain that your clutch fluid is flushed and bled properly. The clutch is not easy to bleed, so make sure it's done correctly.
Great point - keeping with the first principle: KISS.
Thanks Doc.
Reply
Old Sep 15, 2007 | 11:08 AM
  #6  
erijoe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 129
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte
Default

well it took some time but finaly found the problem ....it was the clutch disc


damage in the pressure plate!!



Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 08:47 PM
  #7  
BrandonS2K's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 256
Likes: 0
From: Yokosuka, Japan
Default

it sound like its the fluid i had the same exact problem a few months back i looked and saw the fluid was very low and i cound barely get it into gear so i put some brake fluid in and flushed and bled it and havent had a problem since
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 09:46 PM
  #8  
R3DS2K's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,330
Likes: 0
Default

you said u swap the clutch in the op .. is that picture of the new clutch.. that went bad?? or poor install??
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 10:11 PM
  #9  
Chris_Lum's Avatar
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,643
Likes: 103
From: Irvine
Default

Originally Posted by erijoe,Sep 15 2007, 12:08 PM
well it took some time but finaly found the problem ....it was the clutch disc
Same thing happened to my ACT clutch in my integra! (well not quite 100% the same piece broke off, but i had the same symptoms with my broken clutch) what clutch is this?

Reply
Old Sep 18, 2007 | 02:11 PM
  #10  
erijoe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 129
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte
Default

this is the OEM clutch from exedy..
Reply


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:50 AM.