Did Stage 6 motorsports quote you $5600 for the race kit turbo?

 

They didn't 'quote' me $5,600 but that's what Dwight said he's selling them for. The lesser priced quote will probably not spool up quite as quick because it is not a ball-bearing turbo. Im guessing that you'll be increasing your time to full boost by less than 500 RPM's.

 

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.php?...788#post1046788

If anyone is interested in a turbo in your hands by next week

 

Hey salamander just wanted to inform you that Xerd is working on a turbo for the s2k. Itll be around $4,000 range with 1 year warranty. Keep in mind that there isnt a lot of competition out there with turbos as you might know. Anyone else who is interested look for Xerd posts on the forums. We will keep you posted. Thanks

 

To be more exact, You can get a Speedcraft Turbo System from Speedcraft Industries Inc. (904) 276-9720. To the best of our knowledge our turbo kits are the only ones on the market that have been out the longest, are tried and true with Dyno Proven results. Our kits are not a lesser quality knock off of someone else's kit. We have been in development for over two years, and have worked very closely with other manufactures to provide our customers with the very best products available. One such example would be our relationship with AEM in the development of the forced induction maps which were developed here at Speedcraft on our in house Dynojet Dyno for AEM's stand alone ECU. You can purchase a similar kit from Stage 6 which is not the same parts or workmanship, nor to our current knowledge are there any dyno results for their kit. I am sure the both kits could suit your needs. Just keep in mind that sometimes a good price does not reflect a good value. Lastly our manifolds are warranted for LIFE, all other components carry the manufacture's warranty.

PS D.Z. Please be clearer in the info you pass along.
You can get a Stage 6 Turbo Kit from Stage 6.
You can get a Speedcraft Turbo kit from Speedcraft.


Thanks and Happy PSI!

Todd M.

 

Todd,

You've been gone for a while... the 'Speedcraft turbo' has now become more of a generic term since Dwight has TC'ed a couple of cars. Let's not get into a pissing contest again about who's responsible for what. I wish you guys would chime in more often... it would really help you out with the S2k 'community' here. Do you think because Dwight doesn't have a dyno that he can't build the same kit that he built for my car? ( Or Chris' car or...) All of the hardware is the same and I'm sure that you're not going to knock the quality of Dwight's work.

 

Based on what Todd has written I believe that has no ill will towards Stage 6 or Dwight. He stated for a Stage6 kit get one from Stage6, for a Speedcraft kit get one from Speedcraft. Competition only improves products and services. Stage6 does not sell the exact same kit as Speedcraft. The difference's in materials and workmanship are noticeable to someone whom has seen both kits, as I am sure Derryck has. The original kit designed and built on Derryck's S2K has been improved upon many times over. The design process is ever ongoing. Some changes very slight and some dramatic. If you were to look at the quality of the welding between the "Original" (D.Z. & C.D.) kits and the newer kits in production by Speedcraft you can see the Significant difference on any of the welded parts. Now even though Dwight may have in the beginning been the one mating, grinding, sanding, and welding the original logs changes have happened. The number of kits produced after Dwight's departure is far greater than the number of kits he worked on while he was under the employ of Speedcraft. Therefore the Speedcraft kits will have design changes that he has not had the ability to observe. Now with that said, I hold Dwight in HIGH RESPECT. I have worked with him in the past and if things were not like they are would be happy to work with him in the future. Unfortunately that seems unlikely. Dwight is a very determined and solid person. Note I have not once, ever, knocked him, his business, or reputation. It just needs to be said that Speedcraft has had more of a chance to evolve their kits.

And on the Dyno tuning. It benefits all of these turbo kits to be Dyno Tuned. Though not an absolute necessity, it offers the ability to make sure that the vehicle is operating as it should, making as much power as it can safely, and even more piece if mind to the owners of these fine vehicles who put the uttermost faith in the ability of the shop to take care of their wants and needs. They want the vehicle to perform, they want to know that they, at their command, can propel themselves down which ever piece of pavement they choose, without severe engine and monetary damage. The question is D.Z., Did your S2K need any adjustments on the dyno? Where you completely happy with your S2K after it was tuned? Did you have any questions on how Air/Fuel was before the Dyno? And how about after?

The whole point of this is I believe S2K owners WANT to feel secure. They HAVE to know "Is it going to EXPLODE or not?" Not having a Dyno doesn't mean the kits are poor, and having a Dyno doesn't mean that the kits are great. One just allows the ability to tell the difference, and to correct an issue "IF" there is one. More than likely an untuned turbo kit needs a small amount of adjustment. MYSELF, I am just not that happy with some of the results of the ASSDYNO. (Assdyno refers to a tuner, tuning by his best guess while driving down the street. This explanation is just for those who have not heard that expression before"

Please D.Z. take no offense, none was meant. I believe in the battle to find out who's kit is "BETTER" some of us have lost track of what this is all about. Having fun! Crusing down the road with the WISSSSSSS of the turbo the PSSSTTT of the BOV and KNOWING that the people who purchase the kits are more important that who the designer of the kit is. Both companies manufacture turbo kits. Which one is better is not a matter of which one can be picked up the cheapest. It is all up to the end user. We have lots of SPEEDCRAFT turbo owners on this board, lets get the Stage6 owners in here too and hear what they have to say.

Thanks

 

Someone needs to put one of those Stage 6 turbo S2Ks on the dyno. (the $5600 kit, not the $4995 "base kit")

 

The input's been pretty cool so far. Thanks guys. I just got a quick question. I can use any bov right? Say I bought the speedcraft turbo but i would think a bov from say hks would sound better so i can just use the hks bov instead of speedcraft right? Or is that sort of thing use proprietary parts?

Kinda off topic from what you guys were talkin about...sorry, but it sounds to me like there were some ego battles or something. =P
Hard to say which is better right? I'm sure the stage 6 owners would say stage 6 is better and the speedcraft owners, vice versa. Without being biased, can someone give me an objective discripion on how they differ, and the pros and cons of each?
Thanks.

 

Let me clarify myself....

I'm not knocking Todd or Speedcraft.... just want to clarify some things here. The very first kit was developed on my car and my dime with alot of man hours and assistance from Todd and Dwight and Speedcraft Engineering. Of course there was tuning involved and these kits should be dyno tuned IMO. Todd and Dwight both continue to produce quality kits for the S2000 and both are comprised of essentially the same hardware. The kits produced by Todd are Speedcraft kits... no longer Speedcraft Engineering as they originally were because there is no more Speedcraft Engineering. Dwight was the Engineering part of Speedcraft Engineering and he's gone and Speedcraft Engineering has since been dissolved. Todd has a dyno and thus a distinct tuning advantage... Dwight does not have a dyno. This doesn't mean he can't tune your car.... Dwight has been tuning my cars without a dyno for many years now. Dwight brought the 'import tuner' market to Todd... that's not what he did before Dwight so IMO Dwight has the decisive advantage of experience on his side. He has been dealing with imports... especially Honda's for many years and has become very proficient at what he does. You can't go wrong with either kit IMO... they're aren't cheap and you need to feel comfortable with the company you're dealing with to fork over several thousand dollars. Do your research and do what you're most comfortable with. Many forum members here have e-mailed or PM'ed me over the last couple of years with questions and I try to answer them to the best of my ability... I will continue to support Todd and Dwight on this forum but I have more history with Dwight so I'm always going to be a little biased in his direction.