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Why so many missed shifts ?

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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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Perhaps people aren't holding the shifter properly. Someone needs to post that image that shows how you hold the shifter to prevent misshifts. The few times I ever shifted wrong was when I was first learning and/or I didn't get a good hold of the shifter and my hand slips and causes it to shift to the wrong gear. I've never misshifted when driving aggressively. *knocks on wood*.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LUV2REV,Oct 12 2004, 12:04 AM
Everytime I come to Under the Hood there is yet another S2000 owner who has missed a shift or are concerned they may have. This gearbox is a jewel, a precise instrument, a benchmark for most competitors, why are so many people missing shifts ?
Because so many people believe that Driving Skill comes as standard option on the S2000. Driving Skill, as well as Sense of Humor and Torque, have been on backorder for the past 5 years.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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If you dont nip the missed shit in the bud will you notice a sound or smell after?
I remember once when i was going to shift into 4 and acidently went for 2nd. my reflexes were quick to nip it in the bid and quickly correct the shift. Is this possible? My engine seems fine.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by alexf20c,Oct 12 2004, 02:54 PM
Because so many people believe that Driving Skill comes as standard option on the S2000. Driving Skill, as well as Sense of Humor and Torque, have been on backorder for the past 5 years.
Yeah, well i bought my sense of humor from Ford Motor Credit and I'm putting an order in to Volvo for driving skills. I wonder what the turn around time is on my driving skills. I hope they offer ground shipping. As far as torque is concerned. Im hoping Honda comes out with a V8 rally car that boasts Japanese Muscle.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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I think the real cause of the problem is adrenaline. This car is such a rush to drive that your body is constantly pumped with adrenaline, and that makes people a bit shaky. A shaky hand is not good for hitting the right gate.



In all seriousness, I've hit the wrong gate before but knew it when I did it (before letting the clutch out). Part of the problem could just be muscle memory. The gates on the S are much closer than those on my Accord, therefore it takes some time to adapt when switching from one to the other. I'm sure proper technique and paying more attention to shifting would be helpful, too.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mxt_77,Oct 12 2004, 07:00 PM
In all seriousness, I've hit the wrong gate before but knew it when I did it (before letting the clutch out). Part of the problem could just be muscle memory. The gates on the S are much closer than those on my Accord, therefore it takes some time to adapt when switching from one to the other. I'm sure proper technique and paying more attention to shifting would be helpful, too.
Could be.

I've come close to missing shifts on this car like no other that I've driven - but nobody can blame that on lack of experience. I never missed shifts on my Jeep Commando, VW Rabbit(crappy shifter), Audi Fox, Mazda RX7, Nissan Pickup, Porsche 944, Porsche 911 (worlds crappiest shifter), Alfa 164 (better shifter than an S2000 by far) , Jeep pickup, Jeep Cherokee, Chevy Pickup..........................
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jankemi,Oct 12 2004, 07:43 PM
Could be.

I've come close to missing shifts on this car like no other that I've driven - but nobody can blame that on lack of experience. I never missed shifts on my Jeep Commando, VW Rabbit(crappy shifter), Audi Fox, Mazda RX7, Nissan Pickup, Porsche 944, Porsche 911 (worlds crappiest shifter), Alfa 164 (better shifter than an S2000 by far) , Jeep pickup, Jeep Cherokee, Chevy Pickup..........................
Funny you posted up that list of vehicles. I'm of the belief that the crappier the tranny, the easier it is to actually shift. I've driven the Datsun Pickup, the VW and the Chevy truck manuals. I've also driven many others that were never a problem with mis-shifting. They were all sloppy shifting trannies, with HUGE gates and relatively long throws. With a precision gated, short throw tranny like what we have, we need to have "precision", concentrated drivers.
Your list of cars does not have in any relavence to how "good" some of them may be, but rather a testament to just how really good and precise the S2000 tranny is.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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dont know it anybody posted this but heres a quick tip....

when shifting 3-4, 5-6, or downshifting 5-4, be sure to back hand the shifter; meaning shift with your palm facing away from you (to your right).


edit: found a shifting link.... http://www.shortshifter.com/techniques2.htm
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Intrepid175,Oct 12 2004, 07:34 AM
It amazes me how the second gear synchro can give you that consistent little "notch, notch" feeling on a nice easy 1-2 shift at 15 mph and yet, slip into gear like a hot knife through warm butter at 70 mph which is 12 mph above max speed at redline on my car!!!


The S makes catastrophic downshifts easy. My other manual tranny cars (88 Rx7, 83 Z28, 71 Datsun 510) just couldn't do that. If you tried downshifting them 2 or 3 gears without matching the engine speed the shifter would balk going into gear. The S just gives you a snappy salute and follows orders.
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LUV2REV,Oct 11 2004, 11:04 PM
why are so many people missing shifts ?
Lack of basic driving skills.
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