Since no one has mentioned this, I thought I would. Once again Honda is acknowledging it has "lost its way". They had to stop production of their engines due to a small item that makes a big difference as to how long your engine lasts! This artice gives a number but my understanding it now 42,000 engines that will need to either be replaced or have their heads pulled and piston's pulled to repair.

http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...s-persist.aspx

 

They have outsourced production staff and offered generous retirement packages to anyone with over 20 years. The people they are replacing them with are "kids" being paid $15.00 less / hour and they don't care about quality

One factor why my wife retired last August; she complained about the "boys & girls" who would put in their 40 and not give a damn about quality.

If it's like that in final assembly I imagine this issue is further back stream @ AEP in Anna where engines are assembled too. This is a US issue

IMHO so my next Honda will have a Japanese build sheet or I won't buy it.

......and before anyone starts waving the American flag, this is the 1st time I've ever felt this way in 35 years of Honda ownership

 

For those wondering, the issue is the wrist pin ciclips - a very small item but it holds the pistons together.

Sorry to hear their solution is to let quality go in favor of cheaper labor. Hopefully, this latest change might help get them on a better path.

 

If Honda lost its way for awhile they do seem to be headed back in the right direction with smaller, lighter Accords, vastly better Civics, and hopefully some interesting sports models in the pipeline. But if they lost their way on quality then all is truly lost, because quality was one of the most critical keys to their past success.

I wouldn't worry too much about a wrist pin clip as this is a supplier issue, not a design, engineering, or assembly defect. I still have faith in the folks in Ohio and the Honda Way. But that faith is weaker than at any time since Honda started building stuff in the U.S.

 

Sorry, I don't agree. When forty thousand defective engines make it through production that tells me they are not testing enough, or long enough, or simply trying to shorten the build times to the point where they have lost their way. As I recall, they use to make their own pistons, etc. back when they won the hearts of American's because of their high quality.

 

You do have a point.

 

When did that start???
Mine is MY 2000,so I hope I'm still O.K....

 

40,000 engines they have to check for defects, not 40,000 that need to be repaired.

 

how does one "check" piston circlips?
unless i am rather confused
to gain visibility the piston must be fully removed from the cylinder.

popeye, i understand your sentiment but this doesn't feel like it should be a quality issue.
unless some just forgot to put them in and let the wrist pin float.
it's a
A.) a design quality issue.
B.) a process issue. i doubt the same folks who install the wrist pins actually install them into the block.

 

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