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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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I must be one of the self deceived regarding secular social movements, but I'm at least in good company - the authors of the Encyclopedia of Philosophy and their comprehensive definition of religion:

* Belief in something sacred (gods or other supernatural beings).
* A distinction between sacred and profane objects.
* Ritual acts focused on sacred objects.
* A moral code believed to have a sacred or supernatural basis.
* Characteristically religious feelings (awe, sense of mystery, sense of guilt, adoration), which tend to be aroused in the presence of sacred objects and during the practice of ritual.
* Prayer and other forms of communication with the supernatural.
* A world view, or a general picture of the world as a whole and the place of the individual therein. This picture contains some specification of an over-all purpose or point of the world and an indication of how the individual fits into it.
* A more or less total organization of one's life based on the world view.
* A social group bound together by the above.

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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by dean,Nov 11 2004, 11:02 PM
I must be one of the self deceived regarding secular social movements, but I'm at least in good company - the authors of the Encyclopedia of Philosophy and their comprehensive definition of religion:

* Belief in something sacred (gods or other supernatural beings).
* A distinction between sacred and profane objects.
* Ritual acts focused on sacred objects.
* A moral code believed to have a sacred or supernatural basis.
* Characteristically religious feelings (awe, sense of mystery, sense of guilt, adoration), which tend to be aroused in the presence of sacred objects and during the practice of ritual.
* Prayer and other forms of communication with the supernatural.
* A world view, or a general picture of the world as a whole and the place of the individual therein. This picture contains some specification of an over-all purpose or point of the world and an indication of how the individual fits into it.
* A more or less total organization of one's life based on the world view.
* A social group bound together by the above.

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And worship at the altar of man is different how?
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by anarky,Nov 12 2004, 07:28 AM
And worship at the altar of man is different how?
[QUOTE]Definition:
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by anarky,Nov 12 2004, 08:28 AM
And worship at the altar of man is different how?
I must have missed those services. I can only assume that in this enlightened age that there's an altar for women too.

Secular humanism consists of three fundamental ideas:
1. Humans matter and can solve human problems
2. Science, free speech, rational thought, democracy, and freedom in the arts go together
3. There is no supernatural

Nowhere is there any mention of self worship, only the mention of such insidious and arrogant ideas as promoting the advancement of science and exercising rational thought. Anyone who believes that the proponents of secularism/atheism/agnosticism place humans at the pinnacle of all creation, so to speak, and therefore are deserving of worship has a very poor understanding of the fundamentals of those beliefs. The very same can be said for those who believe that the late Madalyn Murray O'Hair was in any way representative of any mainstream aspect of secularism or the overall philosophy of atheism. Her rather bizarre views and antagonistic behavior reinforced a stereotype that runs totally counter to the views of the majority.

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