S2000 Vintage Owners Knowledge, age and life experiences represent the members of the Vintage Owners

Rushing headlong into 1984

Thread Tools
 
Old Feb 26, 2013 | 11:51 AM
  #11  
Legal Bill's Avatar
Thread Starter
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 34,131
Likes: 126
From: Canton, MA
Default

Originally Posted by RMurphy
Originally Posted by Legal Bill' timestamp='1361904306' post='22365365
I think we are only a couple of connections away from being able to gather all the information available about anyone you like right on your home computer.
We aren't a couple of connections away. We are already there.

To quote Batman, "Not everything, not yet." You can't get into my accounts and you can't get into my e-mails from your home computer unless you hack something. But that's my point. A couple of connections and everyone can get everything.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2013 | 06:03 PM
  #12  
dlq04's Avatar
25 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 46,001
Likes: 8,484
From: Mish-she-gan
Default

I have a friend who has been raving for years and years on this subject. All he sees is the evil in it all; but, you know what, that's always been his whole outlook on everything around him. I am amazed he is still alive since he carries so much hostility. His glass is always half empty.

Like all things, I believe it is part good and part bad. It easy to see how one day that common knowledge access could save your life..... or ruin it.

Personally, other than security and finances I never gave a damn about privacy. I know others think differently and I can think of a few friends who live their lives hoping no one knows what's behind their door. I probably should feel special because I actually been allowed to enter several. Occasionally, you get a surprise or two but more often than not - no big deal.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2013 | 06:41 PM
  #13  
paS2K's Avatar
Gold Member (Premium)
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 18,885
Likes: 33
From: Philly (Narberth)
Default

Originally Posted by dlq04
I have a friend who has been raving for years and years on this subject. All he sees is the evil in it all; but, you know what, that's always been his whole outlook on everything around him. I am amazed he is still alive since he carries so much hostility. His glass is always half empty.

Like all things, I believe it is part good and part bad. It easy to see how one day that common knowledge access could save your life..... or ruin it.

Personally, other than security and finances I never gave a damn about privacy. I know others think differently and I can think of a few friends who live their lives hoping no one knows what's behind their door. I probably should feel special because I actually been allowed to enter several. Occasionally, you get a surprise or two but more often than not - no big deal.
It's just a fact that there is not very much privacy with the expansion of the Internet. I conveniently pay most of my bills online and have never had any problems (except my own...by forgetting to push the SUBMIT button once or twice...earning a missed payment fee ) I can access all of our investments online and move stuff around.

As I noted in another thread recently, one can go online with my street address and find out the size/estimated value/RE taxes/recent sale info for my house. You can find out my age w/o much trouble and also access census info that will list ages, professions, etc. I searched about the Marriott where we stayed in Florida, and then got pop-up ads constantly on FB from this location...even though I already had made a reservation.

This thread has reminded me to clear my cookies more often, and also the Google history of my searches.

Another item not yet mentioned (one that I need to do better): Use varied PASSWORDS and change the important ones every few months.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2013 | 06:53 PM
  #14  
RMurphy's Avatar
Registered User
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 5,663
Likes: 235
From: West Los Angeles, CA
Default

Originally Posted by dlq04
I have a friend who has been raving for years and years on this subject. All he sees is the evil in it all; but, you know what, that's always been his whole outlook on everything around him. I am amazed he is still alive since he carries so much hostility. His glass is always half empty.
I know someone like that! Had to "unfriend" him on Facebook because it was just too danged extreme and depressing and his posts were scaring my other friends. LOL!

Originally Posted by dlq04
Like all things, I believe it is part good and part bad. It easy to see how one day that common knowledge access could save your life..... or ruin it.
+1 this ^^
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2013 | 07:01 PM
  #15  
Legal Bill's Avatar
Thread Starter
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 34,131
Likes: 126
From: Canton, MA
Default

Originally Posted by dlq04
I have a friend who has been raving for years and years on this subject. All he sees is the evil in it all; but, you know what, that's always been his whole outlook on everything around him. I am amazed he is still alive since he carries so much hostility. His glass is always half empty.

Like all things, I believe it is part good and part bad. It easy to see how one day that common knowledge access could save your life..... or ruin it.

Personally, other than security and finances I never gave a damn about privacy. I know others think differently and I can think of a few friends who live their lives hoping no one knows what's behind their door. I probably should feel special because I actually been allowed to enter several. Occasionally, you get a surprise or two but more often than not - no big deal.
If it wasn't convenient and fun, no one would be dong it. That's why we ran willingly into 1984. I care about privacy. I've seen how important it is and how damaging it can be to have too much information out in the public.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2013 | 07:52 PM
  #16  
AZS2KDancer's Avatar
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,326
Likes: 30
From: Phoenix, AZ
Default

And an email today I saw that in AZ there is a proposal to put a chip into each license plate to track miles driven for taxing purposes. The more miles you drive, the more taxes you pay, Big Brother is here. Cameras on every corner. Police/Taxing State is here?
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2013 | 08:28 PM
  #17  
Morris's Avatar
Registered User
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 7,401
Likes: 1,104
From: Napa
Default

Put a chip in my license plate and somebody will accidentally back into it and smash it.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2013 | 11:50 PM
  #18  
RMurphy's Avatar
Registered User
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 5,663
Likes: 235
From: West Los Angeles, CA
Default

Originally Posted by valentine
^^ Murph, I clear cookies and history everytime I surf, but amazingly I get emails inviting me to check out places who sell the very product for which I searched earlier.
That may be a different issue than tracking cookies which prompt pop up ads in the browser. Would need more research/info to be able to comment definitively beyond that.

Originally Posted by Legal Bill
To quote Batman, "Not everything, not yet." You can't get into my accounts and you can't get into my e-mails from your ...
Would you know? Are you sure? *insert sinister laugh here*


Originally Posted by hecash
I set up my own domain name.
The domain is resident with Hover.
For hosting my domain and providing me with full email services and a satisfactory privacy policy, I pay $35 yearly.
I left all of my other email address in place and visit them weekly. They will all be deleted by, say, June.
I no longer search on Google. Bing is my new little friend.
Ok. I'll bite. Why do you think having a domain name and hosting through hover.com is more secure than any other service? How is Bing search more secure or less of a concern for privacy than say Google search (or Yahoo or...)?

Edit: Maybe they have since changed their process (or maybe not) but any company who says this isn't one that is putting security first: http://domaingang.com/short-news/are...in-plain-text/
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2013 | 05:31 AM
  #19  
Legal Bill's Avatar
Thread Starter
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 34,131
Likes: 126
From: Canton, MA
Default

Originally Posted by AZS2KDancer
And an email today I saw that in AZ there is a proposal to put a chip into each license plate to track miles driven for taxing purposes. The more miles you drive, the more taxes you pay, Big Brother is here. Cameras on every corner. Police/Taxing State is here?

And that chip will no doubt tell the authorities how fast you were traveling too.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2013 | 05:33 AM
  #20  
Legal Bill's Avatar
Thread Starter
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 34,131
Likes: 126
From: Canton, MA
Default

Originally Posted by hecash
I'm very much in concert with your concerns about privacy and all the forces that are attacking it, Bill. In order to preserve whatever I have left, I did the following:

I set up my own domain name.
The domain is resident with Hover.
For hosting my domain and providing me with full email services and a satisfactory privacy policy, I pay $35 yearly.
I left all of my other email address in place and visit them weekly. They will all be deleted by, say, June.
I no longer search on Google. Bing is my new little friend.

That still leaves me more vulnerable than I'd like. When I have time, I'll do more research on it.

Thanks very much for raising this issue, Bill. It's worthy of a lot of discussion and action.
Nice to be on the same page with you. I can tell you that most folks don't realize how much info is out there about them. I know because sometimes it is my job to go out and collect it.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:55 AM.