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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 09:56 AM
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My wife and I were always overly cautious with our son going on camping trips , maybe too cautious, we did not allow it. Our son didn't mind though , when he came home with any kind of request we just did not allow it. I just hated the thought of our son's life being in the hands of others, we trusted him completely but you were always trusting their life to various people and organizations - bus drivers, camp directors, boat operators, facility managers , etc. I don't like relying on others to protect our lives.
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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by S2KRAY
How awful the floods in Texas have been 108 dead and 26 still missing, Total devastation yet no advance warning was communicated to those unfortunate. I hope we find out how this could have happened.
It's not the first tim eit has happened.
The county went through the exercise of figuring out how much an automatic system of water level indicators and sirens would cost.
Plain and simple at a cost of a million bucks they said, no it's too expensive.
So right now it work out to be just under 10K /per person who died.
obviously way to expensive. I bet they will spend more than that on court costs now.
but then again it's texas, a life isn't worth much down there.

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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 12:42 PM
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Some of our local townships are opting to remove their tornado sirens due to the cost. There thought is that almost everyone has a cell phone and all that do could download several different apps to provide warnings plus not everyone can hear the sirens.

Sometimes the cost out weights the perceived benefits but I wouldn't want to tell the families of the dead.
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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 12:48 PM
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600 less prognosticators at the National Weather Service can't be an improvement just as storm season starts in earnest.
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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by zeroptzero
600 less prognosticators at the National Weather Service can't be an improvement just as storm season starts in earnest.
But as I read somewhere there were warnings sent out. I just think they were hit with a freak of nature and you don't f....k with mother nature!
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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 02:00 PM
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Being the vile and objectionable person I am.
Perhaps this was Darwin doing his job.
I saw video clips of adults and kids at the river's edge watching the rising water levels.
I don't know how long they stayed there.
This wasn't some arroyo that had steep banks and no way out as the water came roaring down.
Yes, the water rose quickly but certainly not at a rate that you couldn't outpace it up the gentle slope.

I could also see some misguided camp counselor telling kids to go back to their cabins to be safe.

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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by zeroptzero
600 less prognosticators at the National Weather Service can't be an improvement just as storm season starts in earnest.
And who ordered those cutbacks,
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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by boltonblue
Being the vile and objectionable person I am.
Perhaps this was Darwin doing his job.
I saw video clips of adults and kids at the river's edge watching the rising water levels.
I don't know how long they stayed there.
This wasn't some arroyo that had steep banks and no way out as the water came roaring down.
Yes, the water rose quickly but certainly not at a rate that you couldn't outpace it up the gentle slope.

I could also see some misguided camp counselor telling kids to go back to their cabins to be safe.
Lets stop judging what people should have done and face the reality of so many helpless people who died and are still missing. A little compassion would be nice.
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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by boltonblue
Being the vile and objectionable person I am.
Perhaps this was Darwin doing his job.
I saw video clips of adults and kids at the river's edge watching the rising water levels.
I don't know how long they stayed there.
This wasn't some arroyo that had steep banks and no way out as the water came roaring down.
Yes, the water rose quickly but certainly not at a rate that you couldn't outpace it up the gentle slope.

I could also see some misguided camp counselor telling kids to go back to their cabins to be safe.
Many of those who died were young children.
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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 04:55 PM
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I think a lot of people sought shelter in the cabins, no one thought the cabins would be floating down the river . The water levels inside many cabins were extremely high.

I saw the one report of the man who was breaking the car window to save his wife and kids as the car was taking on water - the poor guy cut an artery on the glass and bled out , and died right there in front of the family. The damn stories are sad as hell.

As a society we have to stop building on flood plains and be cognizant of flood plains where people camp etc. They are called flood plains for a reason, it may only happen once every few years but floods will happen sooner or later in flood plain lands.
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