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Old Jul 2, 2018 | 03:41 PM
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I can't wait for this to become law in Michigan. Sounds like a great idea.

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Old Jul 2, 2018 | 05:36 PM
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Most of my cars have a bluetooth connection and I have a bluetooth earpiece.
think I'm good.
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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 04:44 AM
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Like making it "illegal" will change anything.

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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 06:49 AM
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California passed a law that as of January 1 this year, ALL mobiles that are used, must be mounted in a holder attached to the console or windshield. In addition, you may only use 1 swipe, click, or button actuation to perform some task.
No one knows about it.

All my cars have a flexible stalk mount from the pax seat mount bolt. Akron quick release. Works great. (Tacoma, Grand Cherokee, S2000. Wife said no on her MDX)
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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 07:30 AM
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Like making it "illegal" will change anything.

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It won't change anything!! Our state has a law making it illegal to hold a phone or text. They would have to hire a gazillion cops to enforce it. The fines are paltry and need to be increased but that won't happen either. A friend was killed while riding his bicycle @ 7:30 one morning in the Fall. The kid that hit him said sun glare caused the accident. After investigating the crime it was determined that the sun was not in his eyes at the time hit Tom. He confessed to texting and is charged with vehicular manslaughter. I sold my road bike and only ride trails where there are no vehicles. Too dangerous anymore, Tom was 75 one year older than me. I want to hang around a while longer.
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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 10:10 AM
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Last summer one of my employees drove into the Jersey barrier protecting the driveway. Brake lights never lit. Deliberate? Drunk? Texting? Nope, smoking. Dropped the cigarette on his lap as he lit it and didn't control the car. I need to start a petition to make smoking illegal in cars, especially in parking lots. Yep, that will work.

The rest of the story? It was his girl friend's car!

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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 11:08 AM
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I don't like any driver talking/communicating on any device in a moving car, handheld or not. It is crazy. Just concentrating on the road is hard enough. But I'm pretty sure I'm in a considerable minority. And as said above, it's impossible to enforce to any great degree.
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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 02:15 PM
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Somewhat like anti speeding and similar laws, I think these laws are meant to be largely self enforced. Violation is expected (even sometimes observed and justly punished) and rampant The laws are serious but remain suggestive; and even so it is probably a good thing to have them on the books. These laws may not be strictly enforceable, but they do make the world a tad safer, if only as sobering legal reminders.
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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 03:28 PM
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The law won't make any difference. We have had the law for a very long time here in New Jersey and it doesn't seem to deter anybody from speaking on a hand held phone. The police don't enforce the law except when the person is stopped for another violation. If they saw the person on a cell phone they give that person an additional ticket, but they don't seem to stop anyone for being on their hand held cell phones.

I think I see as many people on cell phones while driving now as I did before we had the law. It's not just young people either I see people of all ages on the phones.

Next time you're stopped at a light and you see a person looking down, they're texting. Next time you're stopped and it takes the person ahead of you an extra long time to get started after the light turns green, they're texting.
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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 05:16 PM
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here's a way to twist the law and give it some teeth.
Vehicular accidents which result from driver distraction due to operating a handheld electronic device and also result in a fatality shall be considered first degree premeditated murder.
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