Washing machines
Originally Posted by Boomvang,Feb 18 2006, 01:01 AM
We purchased a Kenmore front loader washer and matching dryer about 3 years ago. Contrary to what some have posted, front loaders have several advantages over top loaders;
1) use much less hot water and detergent
2) the rapid spinning action wrings clothes out so well that the dryer needs to run for a much shorter time, saving energy
3) full size machines can be stacked, saving room
4) front loaders are more gentle on clothing than top loaders, causing less wear on fabric
We have had no issues with our machines, we got them on sale for around $1400 for the pair.
Gary
1) use much less hot water and detergent
2) the rapid spinning action wrings clothes out so well that the dryer needs to run for a much shorter time, saving energy
3) full size machines can be stacked, saving room
4) front loaders are more gentle on clothing than top loaders, causing less wear on fabric
We have had no issues with our machines, we got them on sale for around $1400 for the pair.
Gary
It will hold a King size comforter and wash it well. Our old Maytag toploader was a large capacity machine and if you stuffed a king comforter in that, parts would still be dry after the washer was done.
My only real complaint is the cost of the pedestals.
Originally Posted by Legal Bill,Feb 17 2006, 04:51 PM
I think front load washing machines are an "eye candy" gimmick, especailly in stainless steel with the glass window. they look cool, but they do no better job. Maybe if i had a severe back problem and couldn't lift clothes off the floor I would take a look at them.
In addition to the water and potential energy savings from a front loader, they also don't have a problem which applies to this forum from time to time - an agitator.
They don't beat your garments up and occasionally tear holes in them.Since the tub spins on the opposite plane from a top loader, they also don't walk the floor with unbalanced loads. The better ones will even reverse in the spin cycle when an unbalanced condition is detected.
When our 20+ year old Kenmore set finally died about a year ago, we replaced them with the Maytag Neptune. They are a little pricey but you're still only talking pennies per day over the lifetime of these appliances.
They are extremely quiet - you can put a cup of coffee on the washer in the spin cycle and the liquid barely moves. I highly recommend them.
Do keep in mind, however, that some of this information is hearsay. I'm not allowed in the laundry room without supervision unless there is some sort of emergency.
Originally Posted by raymo19,Feb 18 2006, 02:01 PM
Not so Bill-
In addition to the water and potential energy savings from a front loader, they also don't have a problem which applies to this forum from time to time - an agitator.
They don't beat your garments up and occasionally tear holes in them.
Since the tub spins on the opposite plane from a top loader, they also don't walk the floor with unbalanced loads. The better ones will even reverse in the spin cycle when an unbalanced condition is detected.
When our 20+ year old Kenmore set finally died about a year ago, we replaced them with the Maytag Neptune. They are a little pricey but you're still only talking pennies per day over the lifetime of these appliances.
They are extremely quiet - you can put a cup of coffee on the washer in the spin cycle and the liquid barely moves. I highly recommend them.
Do keep in mind, however, that some of this information is hearsay. I'm not allowed in the laundry room without supervision unless there is some sort of emergency.
In addition to the water and potential energy savings from a front loader, they also don't have a problem which applies to this forum from time to time - an agitator.
They don't beat your garments up and occasionally tear holes in them.Since the tub spins on the opposite plane from a top loader, they also don't walk the floor with unbalanced loads. The better ones will even reverse in the spin cycle when an unbalanced condition is detected.
When our 20+ year old Kenmore set finally died about a year ago, we replaced them with the Maytag Neptune. They are a little pricey but you're still only talking pennies per day over the lifetime of these appliances.
They are extremely quiet - you can put a cup of coffee on the washer in the spin cycle and the liquid barely moves. I highly recommend them.
Do keep in mind, however, that some of this information is hearsay. I'm not allowed in the laundry room without supervision unless there is some sort of emergency.
I still don't buy the whole issue about top loaders damaging the clothes. My clothes don't get damaged in our machine.
Originally Posted by Legal Bill,Feb 18 2006, 02:12 PM
Thanks for the response. I am learning a lot about front loaders from this thread. Much more that the guy at Best Buy knew about them when I bought a new set of top loaders 4 or 5 years ago. Have the front loaders improved over the past 5 years? Also, when I was looking, the front loaders cost twice as much as the top loaders.
I still don't buy the whole issue about top loaders damaging the clothes. My clothes don't get damaged in our machine.
I still don't buy the whole issue about top loaders damaging the clothes. My clothes don't get damaged in our machine.
The biggest common denominator I see in the thread is Sears. Me too. But, except for an occasional hand tool, appliances is all I use Sears for. For years I had a Sears charge acct. I probably still have one I haven't used in years.
What else do you use Sears for? I'm a believer in their maintanence contracts. But I don't buy anyone elses. Oh yes I do. I buy 0 deductable warranties on our gm stuff.
Hmmmm
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What else do you use Sears for? I'm a believer in their maintanence contracts. But I don't buy anyone elses. Oh yes I do. I buy 0 deductable warranties on our gm stuff.
Hmmmm
fltsfshr
If we posted a thread on every consumer product, we could all save the cost of a Consumer Reports subscription
OTOH, I read the library's copy....only 1 block from our house.
FWIW, both of ours are Whirlpool 'Imperial' series....older than dirt! The washer is about 20 years old, but the dryer (gas) was bought USED at least 10 years ago. When we're ready to replace 'em, maybe I can find this thread
NEW QUESTION:
Where is your laundry LOCATED in da house? Ours is on the second floor (moved it there about 10 years ago) and we
that location.
OTOH, I read the library's copy....only 1 block from our house.FWIW, both of ours are Whirlpool 'Imperial' series....older than dirt! The washer is about 20 years old, but the dryer (gas) was bought USED at least 10 years ago. When we're ready to replace 'em, maybe I can find this thread
NEW QUESTION:
Where is your laundry LOCATED in da house? Ours is on the second floor (moved it there about 10 years ago) and we
that location.
Originally Posted by paS2K,Feb 18 2006, 02:10 PM
NEW QUESTION:
Where is your laundry LOCATED in da house? Ours is on the second floor (moved it there about 10 years ago) and we
that location.
Where is your laundry LOCATED in da house? Ours is on the second floor (moved it there about 10 years ago) and we
that location.
I buy Sears tools because it is the closest store and their Craftsman hand tools are good. Otherwise, they can kiss my butt.
Recent example. I have a furnace humidifier from Sears and the control/humidity measuring unit is on the furnace duct-work. The unit failed. No other unit from another manufacturer will work, so I called them up and gave them the "exact" model number I need. I wait a couple weeks and what I get is a unit designed to run on a 12 volt system whereas mine runs on a 120 volt system. I call them and tell them they sent the wrong unit. They argue with me, saying it will work and to try it. I said no way. It was $50 and I'd fry it...... ok, so they agree to talk to the mfg'r (this after the usual operator-less phone crap and then long wait in the que) and I wait another week.... yep.... it will not work and they do not have the other. They agree I can return the unit I never opened but they insist that I pay the postage. WTF. It's not my fault they don't have the part I ordered and sent me the wrong one. I wrote them a letter with the return. No reply. Postage was only $3 but it's the principal of it all. I will not give a company like that my business unless I have no choice.
Recent example. I have a furnace humidifier from Sears and the control/humidity measuring unit is on the furnace duct-work. The unit failed. No other unit from another manufacturer will work, so I called them up and gave them the "exact" model number I need. I wait a couple weeks and what I get is a unit designed to run on a 12 volt system whereas mine runs on a 120 volt system. I call them and tell them they sent the wrong unit. They argue with me, saying it will work and to try it. I said no way. It was $50 and I'd fry it...... ok, so they agree to talk to the mfg'r (this after the usual operator-less phone crap and then long wait in the que) and I wait another week.... yep.... it will not work and they do not have the other. They agree I can return the unit I never opened but they insist that I pay the postage. WTF. It's not my fault they don't have the part I ordered and sent me the wrong one. I wrote them a letter with the return. No reply. Postage was only $3 but it's the principal of it all. I will not give a company like that my business unless I have no choice.









