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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 06:15 AM
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I can say I have been satisfied with our culligan.

we had a 20 year old culligan unit which we just replaced. they we're willing to service it but I decided it was wiser to replace it with an updated unit.
Due to problems with our well, the old unit control was getting damaged by air bursts in the system. so after getting that fixed we put in the new unit.

I love when urban area dwellers complain about the costs of water and sewage. In the last couple of years I have had to replace the well, water softener, and leach field of my septic system. some where just north of 40K in total.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 06:17 AM
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Dean,

Take a look at this link for me if you have time. I can't tell if it makes sense or their trying to baffle me with bs.

http://www.qualitywatertreatment.com/PDF/Q...P%20Details.pdf

Thanks,

Nate
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dlq04,Feb 11 2007, 08:40 AM
I am also leary of Lowes/Home Depot low priced brands. The Culligan salesman said if I wanted to try one to check out his scrap yard behind the building; he said it's full of them. Since ours ran every other night, I suspect we would wear out the lower price ones very quickly.
If I had a dime for everyone of my building suppliers had given me that lame excuse for why I should spend the extra money to buy their product instead of a readily available, less expensive product, I'd be rich. Not counting all the money I'd have saved.

That's a complete crock!!

HD and Lowes could not stay in business if that were the case. HD and Lowes have the GREAT advantage in that you know you can get parts and service. Kinda like Sears in the old days. (I'm really surprised that some of you still have Sears near you as they've all but disappeared in many parts of the country).

I heard the same baloney about my well pump. "Mine uses this and mine uses that but that HD pump doesn't and will only last 2-3 years!" But when I checked I found that the HD pump had all the bells & whistles and more. The economies of their buying power meant that I could get a high quality pump for substantially less than the well guys. They needed to make a much larger profit on each of their sales because they didn't make nearly as many sales as HD did so their pricing was astronomical.

When I contacted the manufacturers direct they used the HD and Lowes pumps as comparisons to theirs. As an aside I discovered a fatal flaw in the well pump installation that would have limited any pump I used to about a 2-4 year life before it would have to be pulled and reinstalled.

On the well pump it ended up that I spent less than half what I would have spent had I listened to the salesman spouting the drivel.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 07:55 AM
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I have a Water Boss:

http://www.waterboss.com/

Bought it locally about 12 years ago and installed it myself for about $600. Still works great. I like it's small physical size. It has a built in, self cleaning 15 micron filter.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 08:16 AM
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Wild, our biggest influencer is our own personal experience. If your's has been good with big box stores - great.

I wouldn't walk into a Home Depot if they were giving them away after my experience with them. As for Lowes and their great purchasing power - I don't know; maybe on some things. For example, we bought a coffee maker there last night; even with a 10% sale it was only $2 less than the same brand shelf price at Sears.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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We also have a Culligan unit. It lasted more than 30 years and a year ago we replaced the tank and the controlling unit. We had very good results with the Culligan.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dlq04,Feb 11 2007, 09:40 AM
I keep bring up the Sears brand to my wife and she keeps saying No Way because of issues we've had with some of their products in the past. I have to agree with her. I know Culligan still carries parts for 25 year old softeners, whereas Sears (just one example) did not have a part for an 8 year old furnance humidifier and since it was propriatary, I had to replace the whole unit, plus they totally refused to pay for a return shipping of the wrong part they did send me.

I can't imagine having a softener that does not clean itself with salt.

I am also leary of Lowes/Home Depot low priced brands. The Culligan salesman said if I wanted to try one to check out his scrap yard behind the building; he said it's full of them. Since ours ran every other night, I suspect we would wear out the lower price ones very quickly.
There are only a few deionizing resin producers. All the water softener outfits use the same stuff from the same suppliers. As far as the valves and electronic controls go, Fleck is one of the top manufacturers around which most of the WS companies also use. WS companies also tend to buy their tanks from the same manufacturers, but there are a few exceptions. There is nothing magical about the Culligan or any of the other boutique units.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by willinathen,Feb 11 2007, 10:17 AM
Dean,

Take a look at this link for me if you have time. I can't tell if it makes sense or their trying to baffle me with bs.

http://www.qualitywatertreatment.com/PDF/Q...P%20Details.pdf

Thanks,

Nate
From the looks of it, the thing does not remove calcium from the water. What it does according to the vendor is to change the calcium from its ionic (salt) form to an inactive crystalline form. There's little mention of magnesium or any of the other minerals often present in water. I wouldn't buy one, I would stick with the more conventional type softener and use Potassium chloride in it..
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dlq04,Feb 11 2007, 06:40 AM
Turns "hard water" into "soft water".

Why - that's easy. Come take a shower at our house or just go to the bathroom. Shower water is so hard (28 was our number) that soap does not lather up - not at all. There's so much iron in it (2.5 was our number) that within a day or two the toilet bottom is covered with rust. In fact, rust is such an issue in our area that the salt has to be the rust buster kind. We've only been without ours for a few days and it's driving us crazy.
Wow, that is bad. Luckily, we've never had to use a water softener. Good luck!
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 07:44 AM
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I decided to go with Culligan. With the on-demand-salt usage we should save 50% over what we've been using since it was strickly on-a-timer. With just the two of us we were going through 160# of salt a month before. Our break even should be about 4.2 years.

Thanks everyone for your input.
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