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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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So the first time I tried to use the PC about 5 months ago, it really made my paint "pop", but it got out little to none of the swirls in my paint. Now if I were to rate these swirls on a 0/10 scale, 0 being none, they would rank a two. I cannot even take a good photo of them under flourescent light, but you can really see them in the sun.

Last time I used:

Adam's Swirl and Haze Remover + Edge White polishing pad.
Adam's Revive Polish + Edge White polishing pad.
Zaino.

So, the last two or three days, I have been messing around with the PC and my trunk before I do the entire car to find out what is good for the paint. I have tried every combo of Adam's products, variying the speed from around 1000 - 5000 OPMs, with little different results. I have tried using pads ranging from the white to yellow (see chart http://www.dedicationtodetail.com/products...dard_poly.html).

I think I have found the culprit when I was holding a flourescent light above my head white buffing off some polish with a CLEAN microfiber towel.

The towel was making these fine swirl marks! I tried three other microfiber towels, one being a different brand, but they were all making light swirls when gently wiping off leftover polish.

What can I do? This is my spring break coming up, and I an about to say "screw it" when it comes to the swirls and do something like:

Adam's Revive polish @ 1000OPMs (just to add pop) + Blue polishing pad.
Zaino Z2 @ 1000 OPMs + Red polishing pad (even better than white, its a LSP pad)

But man! Those swirls drive me INSANE in the sunlight!!!!!! I want 'em gone!
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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sounds like you have identified your towels as the cause of your swirls...

which ones do you have?
make sure you have high quality ones, then remove any tags-
wash in warm water (not hot) with a good mf shampoo and i throw in a splash of vinegar. dry in low heat.
wash and dry only with other mfs- this is often the problem that i find that people have- if you wash or dry with cotton you will get cotton in the mf knap-
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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I use some of Phils, and some cobras.

I mean, the towels at 110% amazing at what they do, and all three I used were clean, washed on cold instead of warm, and tuble dry instead of low heat.

I really do not think the towels I used could be any cleaner, that is what makes it so frustrating.
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 04:31 PM
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Personally I would change a few things. I think product selection is the culprit.

White pads aren't going to get out swirls. Blue pads aren't really going to either. You are using two very light polishes and finishing pads with a machine that generates little friction. That isn't a recipe for success.

Revive polish is more like a paint cleaner and has fillers (I think swirl and haze remover also does) . They tend to cover up those fine scratches rather than remove them. I have a feeling that you aren't really making new swirls, you haven't gotten rid of the old ones. You may be removing the fillers in your final stages.

Start with a yellow or green pad and a decent medium polish. Step down to the green or blue ( I use orange) and a finishing polish like Menzerna PO85. Ditch the finishing pads for the LSP and hand apply. There is less of a chance of introducing more swirls that way.
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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This sucks man... Same thing happens to me every time I polish... EVERY upsetting... I don't know what to do about it either... I considered buying and entirely new set of towels, pads, and polishes, and just hoping for better results...
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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[QUOTE=Ubetit,Mar 22 2008, 04:31 PM] Personally I would change a few things.
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 04:53 AM
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I use speeds 5 and 6 on a PC.

Your yellow pads still need a polish that's more than a light chemical cleaner
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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What pads and products do you guys recommend then??
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 09:43 PM
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So I'm thinking PO85 SIP and PO106FF?
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 05:00 AM
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That may be a good start. I think 106ff is still classified as a finishing polish with a cut of 2.5 out of 5. 106ff has removed some impressive flaws for the cars I've done but I used a rotary.

You may or may not need something like the super intensive polish. You may want to ask Phil at Detailers Domain. It is so hard to tell without seing your paint.
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