What do you mean when you say you reach your current pads "limit" on the road? I find this astonishing.

 

Thanks the RC5+ are about £40 cheaper than the RC6's so worth a look.

 

As I mentioned with the Dixcel ES pads when the brakes are cold the initial bite and power is very good although as the brakes get hotter, and I mean very hot through some very windy challenging national speed limit a and b roads the bite is not nearly as good and the power (mu) is markedly reduced. With the Honda OEM pads I found they would suddenly just give up - i.e. not stop anymore - and this point was lower than the Dixel ES's BUT the consistency of the bite and braking force up to that point was more consistent.

I was going to do Cadwell yesterday but I didn't in the end as I knew the brakes wouldn't cope.

For every day 'medium' driving the Dixcel ES's are excellent.

 

Yes you missed out Carbone Lorraine RC5+ pads

 

Ok, I've just updated the options / prices im looking at.

CL RC6 - £315
CL RC5+ - £270
Dixcel z pads - £334
Ferodo DS1.11 - £318
Carbotech XP10 / XP8 (from states) - £250
Project Mu HC800 (from states) - £160
EBC Bluestuff - £160
PBS (Front ONLY) - £95

 

You could get PBS front and save an awful lot compared to the others and get something like Dixcel's for the rear.

EP3 rears will fit though if you can find these, complete set should be sub £180.

 

I was thinking the same thing however obviously from a price point of view it would only make sense if the PBS are better than the project Mu hc800s and Bluestuff

I can find very little technical information on the PBS pads. I can't even find a manufacturer website

 

I can vouch for the dixcel setup too. I'm currently using the z pads with dixcel disc and couldn't be happier. I also used the ra pads which on track are very impressive, I'm heavy on the brakes and had zero signs of fade whilst being on track for 20mins+ and the bite is incredible.
ALTHOUGH! I now only ever use the ra pads on track and not on the road, as they will eat away at your discs to heat themselves up if they don't get hot enough (and these things want to get hot)
I now mostly just stick to the z pads even on track, as I recently went to Bedford and again had zero fade after being out for at least 20 min sessions again on these. They handle it all very well.
Bear in mind I'm supercharged at just over 400bhp and can cook the standard pads/discs driving hard on the road.

 

I had HC800 and they are fine for road but not track. You won't find much info except perhaps on Hondas on track as they aren't very well advertised. Those who use them swear by them. PBS are used on Civic Cup race cars...

 

How did you find the PBS pad life? I've read they don't last long, I was tempted to try them out.

I've used the ds1.11 and carbotech xp10 on the s2000 and they are both excellent on track.

Ds1.11 were slightly cheaper than the xp10 from circuit supplies I believe. I would say the Xp10s are the better pass out of the 2 they have much better initial cold bite but they are comparable when hot, I got no fade from either pads and no judder, the xp10s can be harsh on cheaper discs and wear the quickly I use pf 2 piece discs and they have lasted several years with around 3-4 track days a year and they still have plenty of life in them. A set of bremtech discs lasted 1 track day.

I've used dixcel z pads on my previous Evo but they just didn't cut it on track, I had lots of judder from pad deposits and ended up swapping to xp10s, they were fine on the road though, but the RA compound are probably more suited to track work. The z pads might work better on the s2000 setup though as some forum members are happy with them on track. Similar with the hc800 they are fine for the road but for track work the Clubracer pads are more suited for track.