HELP
07-21-2019, 08:44 PM
#1
HELP
Hey everyone, this is my first post so please forgive me if i’m in the wrong section.
I own a 2003 s2k with 97k miles. Today I did a valve adjustment after getting some misfire codes thrown at me and read on here it might help. Fortunately, it did, but a new problem arose.
Immediately after doing my VA, I got super loud valve ticking and a STRIKINGLY large power loss. It’s like i’m driving a 70hp pickup truck. I mean going up a hill at 63mph in 6th gear and I actually dropped to 62mph while flooring it. In order to even keep up with the flow of traffic after a stop, I have to floor it in the first 4 gears and the car just doesn’t want to GO.
I spec’d both sides to .010 and I now realize this is higher than it should’ve been, but would that account for the crazy power loss?
Side note: I had great compression in cylinder 4, but 185-189 in the other 3. Any help there?
Thanks
I own a 2003 s2k with 97k miles. Today I did a valve adjustment after getting some misfire codes thrown at me and read on here it might help. Fortunately, it did, but a new problem arose.
Immediately after doing my VA, I got super loud valve ticking and a STRIKINGLY large power loss. It’s like i’m driving a 70hp pickup truck. I mean going up a hill at 63mph in 6th gear and I actually dropped to 62mph while flooring it. In order to even keep up with the flow of traffic after a stop, I have to floor it in the first 4 gears and the car just doesn’t want to GO.
I spec’d both sides to .010 and I now realize this is higher than it should’ve been, but would that account for the crazy power loss?
Side note: I had great compression in cylinder 4, but 185-189 in the other 3. Any help there?
Thanks
07-21-2019, 09:50 PM
#2
Look up billman's "warning for 06+ dbw drive by wire" thread. He makes a number of posts on what is safe for the different model years.
Though I've never driven am s2k with this specs on the valve lashes, it seems to me something else is going on, spark plug wires damaged/ not installed correctly, etc, or you didn't follow instructions when aligning timing marks on the cam gears prior to adjusting the valve lashes. I'd hold off on driving it further until you can go through the process again, adjust the valve lashes to the correct spec, and double check everything out get someone more knowledgeable to help you.
Watch diyguys YouTube instructions for valve lash adjustments, this video is very helpful for the first timer.
Though I've never driven am s2k with this specs on the valve lashes, it seems to me something else is going on, spark plug wires damaged/ not installed correctly, etc, or you didn't follow instructions when aligning timing marks on the cam gears prior to adjusting the valve lashes. I'd hold off on driving it further until you can go through the process again, adjust the valve lashes to the correct spec, and double check everything out get someone more knowledgeable to help you.
Watch diyguys YouTube instructions for valve lash adjustments, this video is very helpful for the first timer.
07-22-2019, 05:52 AM
#3
Look up billman's "warning for 06+ dbw drive by wire" thread. He makes a number of posts on what is safe for the different model years.
Though I've never driven am s2k with this specs on the valve lashes, it seems to me something else is going on, spark plug wires damaged/ not installed correctly, etc, or you didn't follow instructions when aligning timing marks on the cam gears prior to adjusting the valve lashes. I'd hold off on driving it further until you can go through the process again, adjust the valve lashes to the correct spec, and double check everything out get someone more knowledgeable to help you.
Watch diyguys YouTube instructions for valve lash adjustments, this video is very helpful for the first timer.
Though I've never driven am s2k with this specs on the valve lashes, it seems to me something else is going on, spark plug wires damaged/ not installed correctly, etc, or you didn't follow instructions when aligning timing marks on the cam gears prior to adjusting the valve lashes. I'd hold off on driving it further until you can go through the process again, adjust the valve lashes to the correct spec, and double check everything out get someone more knowledgeable to help you.
Watch diyguys YouTube instructions for valve lash adjustments, this video is very helpful for the first timer.
07-22-2019, 07:02 AM
#4
Top tip for valve adjustment:
To avoid messing up the complex alignment marks, ignore them! Instead, just rotate engine (only ever rotate clockwise, tightening the crank bolt. Never reverse!) until valve to be adjusted has its cam lobe point up, 180 away from the follower. I've been doing it this way on Honda motorcycles since the mid 80's. They use the same type of followers and adjustment.
If you aren't fully comfortable doing this, then at the very least as you follow the timing marks, before you touch any adjuster, make sure that valves cam lobe is pointing up! If its not, you messed up the timing marks. Do over.
It isn't hyper critical that the lobe is pointing exactly 180 away. Closed is closed.
To avoid messing up the complex alignment marks, ignore them! Instead, just rotate engine (only ever rotate clockwise, tightening the crank bolt. Never reverse!) until valve to be adjusted has its cam lobe point up, 180 away from the follower. I've been doing it this way on Honda motorcycles since the mid 80's. They use the same type of followers and adjustment.
If you aren't fully comfortable doing this, then at the very least as you follow the timing marks, before you touch any adjuster, make sure that valves cam lobe is pointing up! If its not, you messed up the timing marks. Do over.
It isn't hyper critical that the lobe is pointing exactly 180 away. Closed is closed.
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07-22-2019, 07:27 AM
#5
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@ Car Analogy: Right. On lazy days, i did it also the way you described. Cams point away straight from the Valves and all is O.K.
07-22-2019, 07:53 AM
#6
Top tip for valve adjustment:
To avoid messing up the complex alignment marks, ignore them! Instead, just rotate engine (only ever rotate clockwise, tightening the crank bolt. Never reverse!) until valve to be adjusted has its cam lobe point up, 180 away from the follower.
To avoid messing up the complex alignment marks, ignore them! Instead, just rotate engine (only ever rotate clockwise, tightening the crank bolt. Never reverse!) until valve to be adjusted has its cam lobe point up, 180 away from the follower.
OP, read through this thread, Billman makes a post in this thread on valve lash specs for AP1s:
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-un...2A%2A-1060900/
and watch this video:
07-22-2019, 08:12 AM
#7
Registered User
If somebody brings you a bike / car for valve adjustment, you dont have a workshop manual and you dont see any markings at all, "Lobe center point away" works well.
In contrast, the markings on the S2000 are clearly visble.
In contrast, the markings on the S2000 are clearly visble.
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07-22-2019, 09:50 AM
#8
Timing marks means you have to turn engine until they align, and keep track of which part of the sequence is for which cylinder.
Cam lobe position you turn engine minimal amount, which saves a bit of time. You just turn until a lobe points up, adjust that one, turn some more until another does, etc. Just need to keep track of which ones you already completed.
Cam lobe position you turn engine minimal amount, which saves a bit of time. You just turn until a lobe points up, adjust that one, turn some more until another does, etc. Just need to keep track of which ones you already completed.
