Tegiwa Oil Cooler kit + Mishimoto Thermostatic Sandwich plate , Gauges plus sensors
Hello,
I am currently preparing my s2000 for Nurburgring trip in May, I am planning to order the 13 or 16 Row Setrab Oil cooler supplied in the Tegiwa "Honda Kit", plus Mishimoto thermostatic Sandwich plate which will allow me to run 1 sensor (Planning to use the Oil Temp sensor in the 1/8 NPT hole)
I am leaning towards Innovative MTX dual Oil Pressure / Oil temp gauge as the kit includes the temp and Pressure Sensors. and would install the gauge above the Start button. (want to have a clean interior look, no pillar gauge pod).
My question is should I go with 13 or 16 row cooler ? I know mishimoto supplies 19 row cooler but I feel thats overkill for N/A...
Secondly has anyone mounted the oil temp sensor to the Mishimoto Sandwich plate ? I am worried the supplied temp sensor Probe is too long foe the sandwich plate( innovative team emailed me the lenght of the probe is 3/4 inches from tip to start of threads)...
Thirdly I am planning to run a braided line with a T peace connector in order to mount the oil pressure sensor to the chassis while retaining the Factory pressure sensor. Correct me if I am wrong, factory block thread is 1/8 BSPT ? and the supplied pressure sensor is 1/8 NPT thread...
Any advice welcome
Cheers
Pawel
I am currently preparing my s2000 for Nurburgring trip in May, I am planning to order the 13 or 16 Row Setrab Oil cooler supplied in the Tegiwa "Honda Kit", plus Mishimoto thermostatic Sandwich plate which will allow me to run 1 sensor (Planning to use the Oil Temp sensor in the 1/8 NPT hole)
I am leaning towards Innovative MTX dual Oil Pressure / Oil temp gauge as the kit includes the temp and Pressure Sensors. and would install the gauge above the Start button. (want to have a clean interior look, no pillar gauge pod).
My question is should I go with 13 or 16 row cooler ? I know mishimoto supplies 19 row cooler but I feel thats overkill for N/A...
Secondly has anyone mounted the oil temp sensor to the Mishimoto Sandwich plate ? I am worried the supplied temp sensor Probe is too long foe the sandwich plate( innovative team emailed me the lenght of the probe is 3/4 inches from tip to start of threads)...
Thirdly I am planning to run a braided line with a T peace connector in order to mount the oil pressure sensor to the chassis while retaining the Factory pressure sensor. Correct me if I am wrong, factory block thread is 1/8 BSPT ? and the supplied pressure sensor is 1/8 NPT thread...
Any advice welcome
Cheers
Pawel
I'd do the bigger one if you're going to see some real track time during the summer months.
The stock oil pressure port on the block is 1/8BSPT.
You can run a 1/8 BSPT to -3AN adapter off the block > -3AN stainless line > then a -3AN to 1/8 NPT adapter for the pressure sensor.
The stock oil pressure port on the block is 1/8BSPT.
You can run a 1/8 BSPT to -3AN adapter off the block > -3AN stainless line > then a -3AN to 1/8 NPT adapter for the pressure sensor.
Go with bigger one. With thermostat it’s nearly impossible to go too big. I run one on my car for tracking and have never had the thought of wanting less oil cooling capacity.
With thermostat housing bolted to block with big hose connections pointed down you have a sensor port on left side. Purchase and mount a 90 degree 1/8npt adapter that gives you two ports. It gives just enough room for the longer temp sensor and the shorter pressure sensor.
With thermostat housing bolted to block with big hose connections pointed down you have a sensor port on left side. Purchase and mount a 90 degree 1/8npt adapter that gives you two ports. It gives just enough room for the longer temp sensor and the shorter pressure sensor.
I would suggest you can go to large on the oil cooler, I used a mocal thermostatic sandwich plate with oil cooler on a previous car and that did overcool the oil and I had to cover part of the cooler. The sandwich plate still has to allow a small amount of oil flow at all times or there would be a large pressure drop when it opens.
One word of caution for anyone else stumbling into this thread in future. Oil cooler good for track, bad for not track.
Stock oil cooler is both an oil heater and oil cooler. That is super important for street use.
Stock cooler uses radiator coolant to cool it. Which means as engine first started, and coolant heats up way faster than oil, coolant initially starts heating the oil, so it warms up faster.
Then when oil gets hotter than coolant, it becomes an oil cooler.
Dramatically more engine wear occurs when engine cold. Specifically, when oil still cold. When engine temp gauge first hits middle, you can blast redline, right? Wrong!
Oil takes a good 10 min longer to heat up after coolant. Wait.
Thats with stock cooler acting as a heater. It'll take a lot longer with aftermarket oil cooler. So all that time, more engine wear.
You add an oil cooler for street thinking you're protecting your engine, when you're actually doing opposite.
Race parts don't always translate to street.
Ok, so idle longer to warm up and I'm good, right? Wrong!
Idle is slowest way to warm an engine. So you're just prolonging the wear window. Never warm up any modern engine. Just drove almost right away, and gentle until oil is operating temp. Ni revving out, definitely no lugging.
That also means never start an engine during storage.
Taking your car to longest track known to man to really wring it out, oil cooler good. Oil cooler for car that sees street use, oil cooler bad.
Ok, sorry for thread takeover and rant. PSA over.
Stock oil cooler is both an oil heater and oil cooler. That is super important for street use.
Stock cooler uses radiator coolant to cool it. Which means as engine first started, and coolant heats up way faster than oil, coolant initially starts heating the oil, so it warms up faster.
Then when oil gets hotter than coolant, it becomes an oil cooler.
Dramatically more engine wear occurs when engine cold. Specifically, when oil still cold. When engine temp gauge first hits middle, you can blast redline, right? Wrong!
Oil takes a good 10 min longer to heat up after coolant. Wait.
Thats with stock cooler acting as a heater. It'll take a lot longer with aftermarket oil cooler. So all that time, more engine wear.
You add an oil cooler for street thinking you're protecting your engine, when you're actually doing opposite.
Race parts don't always translate to street.
Ok, so idle longer to warm up and I'm good, right? Wrong!
Idle is slowest way to warm an engine. So you're just prolonging the wear window. Never warm up any modern engine. Just drove almost right away, and gentle until oil is operating temp. Ni revving out, definitely no lugging.
That also means never start an engine during storage.
Taking your car to longest track known to man to really wring it out, oil cooler good. Oil cooler for car that sees street use, oil cooler bad.
Ok, sorry for thread takeover and rant. PSA over.
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