Idk if this is the right place to discuss this but i havent seen any real talk about these nore if any one has them and ill say i enjoy them after i found out the fronts springs were pre loaded. They are prety stiff 12 in the front ten in back. I have been going to autox for about a yr now and playd wirh the setting a little bit and found that i need all my settings soft for racing.. now for when i cruise on the mountain i need to run the little stiffer or els im scraping every were, they are prety comfortable to me but im young and have a thinn old school corbue (might not be corrrect spelling) seat. I do like my friends spoon coil overs alot better than mine but i got almost 500 buks off mine so i went with megans than ksport, i went from 15 place to 5th place from top time the day with these so id like to say if ur thinking of geting them id say thumbs up but research first on coillovers for what your using them for and comfort, i touge alot get air born a little and i have abused them for 40k miles and have not yet blown them vary tuff in my book