Race and get caught
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IM all for the tracks and what not... I think that would Greatly Decrease alot of the risk. But like all things, it wont fix the whole problem.
Most street races that end bad, started with a rev at a stop light....Could you imagine telling that person to follow you to the local drag strip. Not likely.
Still, im tottaly for the dragstrips...Placing a few people in jail for more then 5 years is probably more costly to me then getting that dragstrip.
Most street races that end bad, started with a rev at a stop light....Could you imagine telling that person to follow you to the local drag strip. Not likely.
Still, im tottaly for the dragstrips...Placing a few people in jail for more then 5 years is probably more costly to me then getting that dragstrip.
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DAMN there goes my money now everytime i accelerate hard i gotta look back and see if there is any cops 
,so maybe i wont get blamed for racing like i did lastime just being parked at a gas staion talking to a friend 
so be it bastard ass legislature IM MOVING TO JAPAN!!1
,so maybe i wont get blamed for racing like i did lastime just being parked at a gas staion talking to a friend so be it bastard ass legislature IM MOVING TO JAPAN!!1
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Originally Posted by CpRam86,May 4 2005, 08:15 PM
IMO street racing will never go away so instead of being hardasses about it state and local gov't should open public race tracks. In the 80's when teen pregnancy skyrocketed the gov't didn't arrest teenage mothers take away their babies and throw them in jail, they just gave them Condoms and opened abortion clinics. With more strict laws the problem isn't going to go away people are just going to find better ways not to get caught. More over people in jail cost Florida taxpayers an average of $12,000 a year...... just a quick idea Why don't we put real criminals behinde Bars and let the damn kids be Kids?
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With these new laws, kids would probably try their luck at out running a cop rather than being pulled over for jail time and losing thier car.
FOUR DEATHS LAST YEAR prompted this?
Here are just a few stats before you go on defending street racing...
from: http://www.nhra.com/streetlegal/stats.html
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Originally Posted by PENROD,May 5 2005, 01:43 PM
you say "only four deaths prompted this law?".
Which ONE of those deaths do you think deserved what they got?
How many people SHOULD die before something is done?
I can't say that any of us are perfect, but regardless of what I do or have done, I will not defend street racing.
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Which ONE of those deaths do you think deserved what they got?
How many people SHOULD die before something is done?
I can't say that any of us are perfect, but regardless of what I do or have done, I will not defend street racing.
...stepping off soap box
Very well said!
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Originally Posted by PENROD,May 5 2005, 09:43 AM
I would have to agree with that.
The article quoted four deaths in central florida last year.
Here are just a few stats before you go on defending street racing...
from: http://www.nhra.com/streetlegal/stats.html
It's a little bit more serious than you portray.
I believe there was a law either passed or proposed that actually tried to identify and prevent this type of accident.
Not bad, but a license will not save those that suffer from a mechanical malfunction. Knowing how to drive means knowing the limits of your own abilities and the abilities of the vehicle you are operating at that time. It also means that you know something could go wrong with that car, or god forbid, with you. Street machines were not meant to be raced, that's why it costs so much to get into 'real' racing, with a really well prepared vehicle. I'm sure those of us that Autocross have seen many cars get out of control, and I have been witness to SOME OF THE BEST DRIVERS I KNOW running off the track, running into other cars, or even rolling their own car. I don't think it matters where or when they race, but keep the innocent people out of it.
you say "only four deaths prompted this law?".
Which ONE of those deaths do you think deserved what they got?
How many people SHOULD die before something is done?
I can't say that any of us are perfect, but regardless of what I do or have done, I will not defend street racing.
...stepping off soap box
The article quoted four deaths in central florida last year.
Here are just a few stats before you go on defending street racing...
from: http://www.nhra.com/streetlegal/stats.html
It's a little bit more serious than you portray.
I believe there was a law either passed or proposed that actually tried to identify and prevent this type of accident.
Not bad, but a license will not save those that suffer from a mechanical malfunction. Knowing how to drive means knowing the limits of your own abilities and the abilities of the vehicle you are operating at that time. It also means that you know something could go wrong with that car, or god forbid, with you. Street machines were not meant to be raced, that's why it costs so much to get into 'real' racing, with a really well prepared vehicle. I'm sure those of us that Autocross have seen many cars get out of control, and I have been witness to SOME OF THE BEST DRIVERS I KNOW running off the track, running into other cars, or even rolling their own car. I don't think it matters where or when they race, but keep the innocent people out of it.
you say "only four deaths prompted this law?".
Which ONE of those deaths do you think deserved what they got?
How many people SHOULD die before something is done?
I can't say that any of us are perfect, but regardless of what I do or have done, I will not defend street racing.
...stepping off soap box
I quoted from the article, not from any other source, so if my information was wrong, I got it directly from the horse's mouth. I wasn't bringing other statistics into this, but the article clearly states:
"TALLAHASSEE -- Alarmed by four deaths in Central Florida last year, the Legislature on Tuesday approved tougher penalties for motorists who race their souped-up cars on public streets."
It did not say anything else about other deaths/accidents in the state that prompted the more severe punishments.
To further clear this up for you, I was not defending street racing by any means. My point was that there are other ways of trying to handle the situation rather than trying to scare kids. I understand the severity of the issue, and I think that lives lost during these drag races on the street is horrific. I have never said otherwise.
My suggestion about the licenses isn't a solution, as there never will be a complete satisfactory solution. Obviously, there are other factors into the equation that cannot be accounted for. My suggestion was merely a way of putting more educated drivers on the road to create a preventative solution rather than a punishing one as is being implemented now. The two, although trying to achieve the same outcome, work on varying different levels, and would typically yield very different endings.
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Originally Posted by Spa02S2K,May 5 2005, 10:19 AM
Very well said! 
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Originally Posted by Spa02S2K,May 5 2005, 11:20 AM
All I said was that I agreed with his post. How many *MORE* people should die before something is done. I don't defend street racing.
I do think driving privileges here in the states should be just as those in Europe. People have to pay anywhere between $1,200 USD - $1,500 USD just to get their drivers license and not before they are put through a lot of training courses. Something the States should consider implementing. Worse thing is Miami is great for handing out Drivers Licensess. It's like: "Welcome to Miami.. Here's your driver license... some $$ and a resident card."
I do think driving privileges here in the states should be just as those in Europe. People have to pay anywhere between $1,200 USD - $1,500 USD just to get their drivers license and not before they are put through a lot of training courses. Something the States should consider implementing. Worse thing is Miami is great for handing out Drivers Licensess. It's like: "Welcome to Miami.. Here's your driver license... some $$ and a resident card."
I agree that something _should_ be done. I'm just questioning whether this is the best thing that _can_ be done.
And I agree with you about Miami and driver's licenses. I've heard in Europe the laws are getting tighter as well.