AP1 or AP2
Woah - thanks for all the replies!
Not a dumb subject! I'm trying to get opinions from people who have the car, or driven the car!
The final numbers aren't in yet but somewhere in the neighbourhood of ~$4-5,000 plus my car...
Boosting the car is not an option for two reasons...
1) I've had a boosted car and albeit fun and fast there are lots of headaches associated with it - anyone telling you otherwise is lying, these cars didn't come boosted so I'd be really reluctant to do that to them - but thats just me.
2) I admire the F20 and F22 for their engineering and making 240hp out of a small engine without FI...
I honestly didn't know about the traction control - that kills the fun, dosn't it! Is there a switch where you can turn of it? If there is then its not so bad... Whats wrong with the "clutch valve thing" that sounds like a decent idea to me?
I want to get a tunable ECU as well, basically with the AP1 I'm looking at K-Pro (which I don't want) or an AEM EMS (lots of cash), I like the idea of the FlashPro looks good!
As far as looks go I'm with alot of you guys.. I like the AP1 front bumper, AP2 Headlights, AP1 tails, but I guess I'm the only person that likes the AP1 rear bumper? Exhaust and suspension doesn't matter since I have that currently on my AP1 which would be coming off to put on the new car...
Such a touch decision... Its not like I hate the SSM colour either... Its just not my favourite...
Not a dumb subject! I'm trying to get opinions from people who have the car, or driven the car!
The final numbers aren't in yet but somewhere in the neighbourhood of ~$4-5,000 plus my car...
Boosting the car is not an option for two reasons...
1) I've had a boosted car and albeit fun and fast there are lots of headaches associated with it - anyone telling you otherwise is lying, these cars didn't come boosted so I'd be really reluctant to do that to them - but thats just me.
2) I admire the F20 and F22 for their engineering and making 240hp out of a small engine without FI...
I honestly didn't know about the traction control - that kills the fun, dosn't it! Is there a switch where you can turn of it? If there is then its not so bad... Whats wrong with the "clutch valve thing" that sounds like a decent idea to me?
I want to get a tunable ECU as well, basically with the AP1 I'm looking at K-Pro (which I don't want) or an AEM EMS (lots of cash), I like the idea of the FlashPro looks good!
As far as looks go I'm with alot of you guys.. I like the AP1 front bumper, AP2 Headlights, AP1 tails, but I guess I'm the only person that likes the AP1 rear bumper? Exhaust and suspension doesn't matter since I have that currently on my AP1 which would be coming off to put on the new car...
Such a touch decision... Its not like I hate the SSM colour either... Its just not my favourite...
If you were leaving it stock there's really no comparison..... the AP2 has been tweaked with minor things over the 5+ years (since 2004).
I know people love the 9krpm limit (which is nice), but the fact is the AP2 is a better and faster stock for stock on the circuit.
Here come the flames......
Ps I've owned 3 S2k's (one being an AP1) and the AP2 is faster on the track, straight line and has nicer creature comforts.
I know people love the 9krpm limit (which is nice), but the fact is the AP2 is a better and faster stock for stock on the circuit.
Here come the flames......

Ps I've owned 3 S2k's (one being an AP1) and the AP2 is faster on the track, straight line and has nicer creature comforts.
I think that Japanese car show Best Motoring did the stock test and found the AP2 1 and a bit seconds faster around their circuit. They said it was mostly due to rear tire size. They put Ap2v1 wheels on an AP1 and it was then 1 sec faster if i remember right.
I would also like to know if the traction control can be turned off. Usually it can, but if it cant be turned off then I would probably not get an AP2. Its nice to be able to choose.
I agree with the above as well. Its hard to split them on looks or engine as I like certain things from both AP1 and AP2.
I would also like to know if the traction control can be turned off. Usually it can, but if it cant be turned off then I would probably not get an AP2. Its nice to be able to choose.
I agree with the above as well. Its hard to split them on looks or engine as I like certain things from both AP1 and AP2.
Originally Posted by Himura357,Sep 17 2010, 10:50 AM
I think that Japanese car show Best Motoring did the stock test and found the AP2 1 and a bit seconds faster around their circuit. They said it was mostly due to rear tire size. They put Ap2v1 wheels on an AP1 and it was then 1 sec faster if i remember right.
I would also like to know if the traction control can be turned off. Usually it can, but if it cant be turned off then I would probably not get an AP2. Its nice to be able to choose.
I agree with the above as well. Its hard to split them on looks or engine as I like certain things from both AP1 and AP2.
I would also like to know if the traction control can be turned off. Usually it can, but if it cant be turned off then I would probably not get an AP2. Its nice to be able to choose.
I agree with the above as well. Its hard to split them on looks or engine as I like certain things from both AP1 and AP2.
The one thing I really don't like about the newer AP2s is the traction control system (which is very obtrusive). You can turn it of, yes..... but it's still there in a small way.
I also don't like the fact how they made it lass raw than the AP1's (feel wise).... I guess catering to the N. American market has its downside for sports cars.
Either way you can't go wrong with any year S2000.
Originally Posted by Rev_2_8k,Sep 17 2010, 07:28 AM
If you were leaving it stock there's really no comparison..... the AP2 has been tweaked with minor things over the 5+ years (since 2004).
I know people love the 9krpm limit (which is nice), but the fact is the AP2 is a better and faster stock for stock on the circuit.
Here come the flames......
Ps I've owned 3 S2k's (one being an AP1) and the AP2 is faster on the track, straight line and has nicer creature comforts.
I know people love the 9krpm limit (which is nice), but the fact is the AP2 is a better and faster stock for stock on the circuit.
Here come the flames......

Ps I've owned 3 S2k's (one being an AP1) and the AP2 is faster on the track, straight line and has nicer creature comforts.
Originally Posted by FluKy15,Sep 16 2010, 04:52 PM
The 9k looks nice but I think the AP2's are faster. Just sayin...
you should run the time attack at cscs and maybe we can find out.
that is what's called a 'call out'.
let me know......
Originally Posted by 6013641,Sep 17 2010, 06:49 PM
just incase no one was paying attention....
that is what's called a 'call out'.
let me know......
If you give me $400 for rear tires Im in, but with my balding tires I cant run to the level you can. Unless someone lets me borrow their AP2.


