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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Back in the day I used to run 14/16k FR springs in my civic for street/track use and I don't remember having a harsh ride at all. Was pretty good on the street and great on the track.

EDIT: But like deanob said, it depends how picky you are for street comfort.
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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well the tein tech is right about that, the src doesn't feel like it's riding on 16k

with the RCA, it should already be better than just lowering in terms of body roll. Some ppl like their cars stiff for response, and personally I can see why. (not that I'm in that group)

Doesn't hurt to try I guess, those don't depreciate by that much anyway since they are fairly high end dampers.

Which track do you run mostly?
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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mostly on mosport DDT and shanonville. my tires are also gonna have more grip this year cause i'll be running 265/35/18 front and rear. I really think the SRC would benifit from this.
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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Well with a higher RC and a lowered CG, the body roll issue will have been addressed. I don't know the rate for the CR bars vs the OEM, so I can't comment on it.

Neither track requires a stiffly sprung setup IMO. MAYBE at shannonville, but even then the corner radius aren't that long, esp not at DDT. On a track like Mosport GP or Calabogie full track for example, you'll need to set the car up stiffer, because the corners are long, and high speed; but for tracks like dunnville, cayuga, shanny and ddt, you can dial down the stiffness and actually not lose too much in the corners. On Shannonville because it is actually quite bumpy, a lower spring rate would be even more beneficial.

As a whole, my usual advise is to err on the soft side. People hate hearing it, but softer cars grip better, work the tires less hard and in general is a bit more forgiving, but since it seems like your mind is pretty set on SRC, then I guess the discussion is pretty much moot.


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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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^ agreed about the stiffness req'mnts for shanny/ddt/dunnville/cayuga...having a bit of a softer setup isnt such a bad thing for these type tracks. and lol, it is true so many ppl think 'stiffer is better or give you mad tyte handling y0' but this isn't always the case...especially when at the limit of the car's abilities. but that's not to stay better quality and stiffer coils/shocks aren't good, because in many cases they are better....and work awesome for major tracks.

borbor, what do you think of a setup with oem shock (either regular s2k or CR damper) with a proper progressive spring (ie. SPOON) that are made to work with the shock and are just a bit stiffer than stock (spring only, thus damper rates remain the same)? im now contemplaiting this setup rather than dropping bigger coin on coilovers. hrmmmm...(i do usually use Rcomps).
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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R should overpower the stock suspension dampers. A good damper is just as important as spring rates
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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correct stock suspension would not hold up to the R comps, even with different spring rates. and the stock struts are valved for their specific spring rates.
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by revmatch,Apr 23 2009, 03:56 PM
borbor, what do you think of a setup with oem shock (either regular s2k or CR damper) with a proper progressive spring (ie. SPOON) that are made to work with the shock and are just a bit stiffer than stock (spring only, thus damper rates remain the same)? im now contemplaiting this setup rather than dropping bigger coin on coilovers. hrmmmm...(i do usually use Rcomps).
Are you doing this to stay within a certain competition class in solo I or II? It isn't very often where I see someone wanting to stiffen up the springs, keep OE shocks, but run R tires.

I'm actually curious as to know the reasoning behind this assuming it's not purely out of budgetary reasons.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by iDomN8U,Apr 23 2009, 05:24 PM
R should overpower the stock suspension dampers. A good damper is just as important as spring rates
This is very true. I had done a few laps behind my buddy in a RSX with mugen SS (stock like suspension) and R comps and he would put his rear wheel in the air on every sharp corner. Although this may look cool it means you have 1 less tire giving you traction which is bad... very bad.

By the way... I wouldn't track with R comps unless you have a cage. You can go pretty fast with R's but if you manage to break loose and dig then your fuct.
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