BMW?
So I was daydreaming yesterday and this morning about what my next car would be (several years from now if/when I decide the S2000 needs to make way for a more comfortable 'regular' car) and I've always loved the sleek classy look of BMWs.
Something like the M3 coupe maybe...

Any opinions (bad or good?)
Something like the M3 coupe maybe...

Any opinions (bad or good?)
Great car. Expensive to maintain. Parts are exhorbitantly expensive. If you are use to Honda reliability you may be disappointed if you keep the car any length of time.
My neighbor has an '01 3-series nearing 100k miles. He's replaced all 4 window motors at least once, had the fuel pump replaced ($600!!!), and various other things that most Honda owners would consider NOT to be routine (your average GM-buyer might not think so).
I have to say that the fit and finish is outstanding and they are quite fun cars to drive... you also can't beat the styling, especially of the M.
My neighbor has an '01 3-series nearing 100k miles. He's replaced all 4 window motors at least once, had the fuel pump replaced ($600!!!), and various other things that most Honda owners would consider NOT to be routine (your average GM-buyer might not think so).
I have to say that the fit and finish is outstanding and they are quite fun cars to drive... you also can't beat the styling, especially of the M.
Most BMW dealers treat you like crap or worse. I have had many BMW's and still have a e36 M3. Parts are outrageous.
I dont like the handling of the e46 M3. Crazy understeer. Wasnt designed from the ground up to be the car it is. The e46 sedan was the original platform and all the other models including the coupe are derivitaves built off of that.
C6 really makes the m3 look overpriced and underperforming. I would go for a C6 new or used and then wipe the floor with the M3.
I dont like the handling of the e46 M3. Crazy understeer. Wasnt designed from the ground up to be the car it is. The e46 sedan was the original platform and all the other models including the coupe are derivitaves built off of that.
C6 really makes the m3 look overpriced and underperforming. I would go for a C6 new or used and then wipe the floor with the M3.
Originally Posted by marcucci,Oct 21 2005, 06:22 AM
Great car. Expensive to maintain. Parts are exhorbitantly expensive. If you are use to Honda reliability you may be disappointed if you keep the car any length of time.
My neighbor has an '01 3-series nearing 100k miles. He's replaced all 4 window motors at least once, had the fuel pump replaced ($600!!!), and various other things that most Honda owners would consider NOT to be routine (your average GM-buyer might not think so).
I have to say that the fit and finish is outstanding and they are quite fun cars to drive... you also can't beat the styling, especially of the M.
My neighbor has an '01 3-series nearing 100k miles. He's replaced all 4 window motors at least once, had the fuel pump replaced ($600!!!), and various other things that most Honda owners would consider NOT to be routine (your average GM-buyer might not think so).
I have to say that the fit and finish is outstanding and they are quite fun cars to drive... you also can't beat the styling, especially of the M.
I hate it when people hear some rumor and then it gets replicated. If you're talking about basic oil filters, bushings and maintenance items they're not any more expensive than the S2000. Your neighbors car is an outlier, my 97 M3 hasn't had a single electronic problem other than some pixels dying in the radio which BMWNA replaced for free. If you're dumb enough to pay dealer prices for parts and labor then that's your own mistake either for a S2000 or a BMW.
The key to owning a BMW is either buy a new or CPO car with included scheduled maintenance or find a good independent BMW/german automobile mechanic and buy your own parts online.
Originally Posted by kraemer007,Oct 21 2005, 07:13 AM
Most BMW dealers treat you like crap or worse. I have had many BMW's and still have a e36 M3. Parts are outrageous.
I dont like the handling of the e46 M3. Crazy understeer. Wasnt designed from the ground up to be the car it is. The e46 sedan was the original platform and all the other models including the coupe are derivitaves built off of that.
C6 really makes the m3 look overpriced and underperforming. I would go for a C6 new or used and then wipe the floor with the M3.
I dont like the handling of the e46 M3. Crazy understeer. Wasnt designed from the ground up to be the car it is. The e46 sedan was the original platform and all the other models including the coupe are derivitaves built off of that.
C6 really makes the m3 look overpriced and underperforming. I would go for a C6 new or used and then wipe the floor with the M3.
There are plenty of good online parts retailers that sell for considerably cheaper. Try pacific bmw in california, circle bmw in NJ, bimmerzone, pelican parts and also there are tons of used parts as well as group buys on bimmerforums.
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CPO---> Certified Pre-owned.
But if you noticed there are so many 2-3 year old BMW's on pre-owned lots...not everyone wants to - or can afford to own a BMW outside of it's warranty/free scheduled maintainance period.
But if you noticed there are so many 2-3 year old BMW's on pre-owned lots...not everyone wants to - or can afford to own a BMW outside of it's warranty/free scheduled maintainance period.



