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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 02:10 AM
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I have taken this discussion out of NUTS thread as I didnt want to derail it.

I have emailed WIM and they have confirmed that it is toe in on the rear wheels and toe in on the front wheels with the values on the sheet below.

Now my car seems to suffer from inside edge wear on the fronts and will understeer on the limit. Any ideas on what I could try to help resolve it. It also has a slight shimmy from the rear when the wheels hit a bump independantly.

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Hello Simon. The rear toe on yours is positive meaning toe in.
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Hi,
I had my S2000 in for alignment and poly bushes a while ago and have been happy with it, although the front edge has started to wear. I plan to get this checked.
I have a few questions on the sheet. The Toe for the rear is positive and the front is negative. Does this mean the rear has toe out?



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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 02:24 AM
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Rears are toeing in / fronts toeing out from what I read.

Rear toe looks ok, a touch more than I use but I don't like much toe at all on the S.

I'd prefer a tocuh more front camber.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 02:35 AM
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That's quite a low rear toe-in setting for an older car (pre-04 standard settings are for more rear toe than for post-04). I run roughly 20' each side.

Front toe out is more racing driver-ish, most folk go for as close to zero as possible.

Camber-wise 1[sup]o [/sup]at the front and 2[sup]o[/sup] at the back is pretty standard "fast road settings" (although I hate that term).
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 02:44 AM
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These readings are pretty similar to my MY05, bar the Toe out on the front.

I disagree with Mark though on more camber - you'll go through tyres in no time!

Intriguing why it understeers on the limit though, especially with Toe out on the front, although this with the camber will be why you suffer from excessive wear at the front.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 02:49 AM
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Watching this thread with interest. I'll be fitting a full powerflex bush kit and BC Racing coilovers fairly soon, aiming to reduce ride height by approx 25-30mm, and will need to have some base settings to set the car up with.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by lovegroova
That's quite a low rear toe-in setting for an older car (pre-04 standard settings are for more rear toe than for post-04). I run roughly 20' each side.

Front toe out is more racing driver-ish, most folk go for as close to zero as possible.

Camber-wise 1[sup]o [/sup]at the front and 2[sup]o[/sup] at the back is pretty standard "fast road settings" (although I hate that term).
I'm not sure why but I have cut off the left side of the sheet with the photo, doesnt help with reading it.

Im confused to why its running toe out on the front too - I'll find out as its a daily drive and I want some tyre life.

Understeer might be due to something else, like potholes.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by sound_wave
Intriguing why it understeers on the limit though,
Front tyres are a lot smaller than the rears and camber on front is half of that at the back.

In a high powered RWD car, rear camber is usually LESS than front.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 02:57 AM
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Im runing 215/45/17 fronts and 225/45/17 rears.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 03:04 AM
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Honda settings above - looks like a mix of standard and optimum.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Si2k
Im runing 215/45/17 fronts and 225/45/17 rears.


There's your oversteer answer then, if it were me I'd get some wider tyres on the back and get rid of the front toe, that'll be a big improvement already.

I've got 1°30' camber on the front and 2°30' camber on the rear and I love the way it handles, it's very predictable.
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