Coilover choices
Ok, so since buying my s2 a few months back I've been slowly collecting the bits needed to lower it, All I need now is the coilovers.........
I had decided on ks v3's but reading up on spring rates here (on the nitron threads) has made me wonder they maybe a little too stiff for me.
I would like to do a few track days but my s2 is my daily and I'm far more concerned about how it handles on the road as opposed to the track.
Does anyone run high 10k spring rates on their daily driver? if so, how is it day to day?
as I say I had decided on the kw's but they're expensive (
I had decided on ks v3's but reading up on spring rates here (on the nitron threads) has made me wonder they maybe a little too stiff for me.
I would like to do a few track days but my s2 is my daily and I'm far more concerned about how it handles on the road as opposed to the track.
Does anyone run high 10k spring rates on their daily driver? if so, how is it day to day?
as I say I had decided on the kw's but they're expensive (
Personally, I don't think 10k are stiff at all.
How do you find your OEM dampers?
KW3s have a good feedback rating, not only from the users on here, but also magazines in general.
Forget the Nitrons. They are very expensive and you won't notice the difference.
If you are looking at road use only, i'd seriously look at getting some H&R/Bilstien coilovers.
For road use, they were impeccable providing decent stroke and good control.
I know because I have just sold a set because I plan on doing more track days this years so wanted something stiffer = Tein Monoflex.
Oh, welcome to the minefield that is 'Suspension'
How do you find your OEM dampers?
KW3s have a good feedback rating, not only from the users on here, but also magazines in general.
Forget the Nitrons. They are very expensive and you won't notice the difference.
If you are looking at road use only, i'd seriously look at getting some H&R/Bilstien coilovers.
For road use, they were impeccable providing decent stroke and good control.
I know because I have just sold a set because I plan on doing more track days this years so wanted something stiffer = Tein Monoflex.
Oh, welcome to the minefield that is 'Suspension'
Thanks for the reply,
I'd ruled out the bilstein and H&R due to lack of adjustment when compared to the competition (I would like to get out on the track occasionally, and have some experience of suspension setup from my old fury).
How are the monoflex's now that they're on? I was just a bit too late for the coilover group buy.
I guess I'll have to decide between the bc's or spending the extra and getting the kw's
, maybe I should start another GB?
I'd ruled out the bilstein and H&R due to lack of adjustment when compared to the competition (I would like to get out on the track occasionally, and have some experience of suspension setup from my old fury).
How are the monoflex's now that they're on? I was just a bit too late for the coilover group buy.
I guess I'll have to decide between the bc's or spending the extra and getting the kw's
, maybe I should start another GB?
Originally Posted by Frankx80,Feb 12 2009, 05:56 PM
I'd ruled out the bilstein and H&R due to lack of adjustment when compared to the competition (I would like to get out on the track occasionally, and have some experience of suspension setup from my old fury).
Both are platform adjustable.
The PSS9 are even damping adjustable.
Not that you will need it.
If I had to reccommend an everyman coilover, it would be the H&R/Billys.
You still haven't mentioned to us what you think of the original setup.
Boab - i'm not calling the Nitrons rubbish, i'm saying the difference won't be noticeable for the extra money you'd pay over KW v3s
Steve sent me a wonderful article of how the Tein/Kw3 etc stacked up against Moton and Ohlins. PM him (m1bjr) and see if he can send you a copy!
I'd avoid the Tein Monoflex now because they are VERY expensive -
If your patient, my buddy clubs are going on next month, and I'll let you know.
They also have adjustable damping at the top of the strut, just by turning a little nib with your finger, and so Ive heard, be adjusted to softer than stock If need be, which sounds ideal for a daily driver.
They also have adjustable damping at the top of the strut, just by turning a little nib with your finger, and so Ive heard, be adjusted to softer than stock If need be, which sounds ideal for a daily driver.
Frankx90 ... Frank?
Look to the bottom of this note and click the KWv3 install link at the bottom.
I use the KWv3 and are incredibly pleased with them.
Much was made about 500lbs + rates but with quality German dampers like these and good adjustment range the ride is firm but not jarring.
If track work is a driver for you, I wouldnt see much point in anything softer.
We (the wife and me) do a fair mileage and Somerset roads are crap.
The trouble is cost, ideally you would also want to install rack spacers and rear adjustable toe arms.
Factor in an alignment at WIM or CG for example and not much change from
Look to the bottom of this note and click the KWv3 install link at the bottom.
I use the KWv3 and are incredibly pleased with them.
Much was made about 500lbs + rates but with quality German dampers like these and good adjustment range the ride is firm but not jarring.
If track work is a driver for you, I wouldnt see much point in anything softer.
We (the wife and me) do a fair mileage and Somerset roads are crap.
The trouble is cost, ideally you would also want to install rack spacers and rear adjustable toe arms.
Factor in an alignment at WIM or CG for example and not much change from
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Originally Posted by Hypersonik,Feb 13 2009, 01:22 AM
All this BS about adjustable damping is needless.
I have experimented a lot with compression and rebound.
KWv3 on close to fully closed valving will knock your teeth out on our roads and lose traction.
So, It's personal choice and suggests you would want higher damping or rates than me, or what the Teins offer you.
EDFC - not really any point then in your application Ron?
The KW 'click' & variable adjust gives a good range and every single 'click' is a noticable difference, moreso the rebound on the front.
HTH.





