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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DAT International,Apr 29 2009, 06:38 PM
So is a stiffer rear spring fine or do i need 10/10 or even 8/8?
From my personal experience, I would not go over 400lb and I suspect Mike will agree. However, Steve (and others) seem happy on stiffer springs (perhaps they have better quality B roads than my local roads ). For me, it was the ability to increase the rebound on the rears which was important, not the spring rates.
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by m1bjr,Apr 29 2009, 06:26 PM
It was just a small jibe, as the poster has on more than one occasion taunted me about the superiority of this product over the cheaper and capable KWs
Ah, I see. I've only read your jibes, not Danny's initial comments I was the first S2000 owner to go down the Nitron route so there was a little spring rate testing.
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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Got it Craig.

I run the rears a little faster than the fronts (less rebound).

Its all personal, not just down to the roads we travel.
Having been in a few cars with soft springs and crap dampers, that's a whole load more uncomfortable than hard springs and decent valving.
And then there is driving style ... so there's no right/wrong really is there DAT?
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Paper Lawyer,Apr 29 2009, 07:44 PM
From my personal experience, I would not go over 400lb and I suspect Mike will agree.


I went up from 300lb to 350lb to prevent the rears hitting the bump stops.
Honda have designed a very short travel on the rear and I suspect that is one reason why a lot of aftermarket coilovers have higher spring rates especially rears.
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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I have H&R's and I'm really glad I bought them.

German quality, great for road use, and now accompanied with Cusco ARB's, great for the track.

Some people have commented on others missing the point with high spring rates. Since I have now driven a few cars with 'high' spring rates, I would have to agree.
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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I would suggest you erecognise one man's opinion / preference as just that and nothing more epecially as it comes to springs rate preferences. One man hard is another one's soft. I am wary of those who come across as authoratative on subjective matters if only to justify their purchases.
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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The Tein are 10kg/10kg.

I have them on the max daming setting.

They are very nice

You get a brilliant turn in and the car responds well.

Yes, some roads they are too stiff for.

However, I like the response too much to change.

I am playing with the ARBs idea, but I think that will compromise the road ability too much.
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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Ron, I experimented with stiffer ARBs and, whilst they were great on track, I thought they were a step too far on bumpy roads.
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Paper Lawyer,Apr 29 2009, 11:48 PM
Ron, I experimented with stiffer ARBs and, whilst they were great on track, I thought they were a step too far on bumpy roads.
Cheers Craig, I'll give them a miss then
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by m1bjr,Apr 29 2009, 10:26 AM
It was just a small jibe, as the poster has on more than one occasion taunted me about the superiority of this product over the cheaper and capable KWs
Can't say I recall doing that apart from my sarcasm from a few days ago.
I paid less than you did without a doubt.
Please feel free to search through my posts where I said
"those are shit, mine are far better than that" or anything close. You wont find one.
In fact I've always been a supporter of changing to ANY good aftermarket coilovers because of how much better it makes the car. Now if you were to ask me which ones to buy, I would have said Nitrons for a few reasons, the sports spec that eSeM has are very good, and only a little more expensive than Bilstein PSS9 or KWV3 and in fact they are probably very close in price now, they're made by a British company that will rebuild them very cheaply when needed and finally when you come to sell them because they have the perception of being massively expensive and the afforementioned ability to have them rebuilt you will lose less money.

So given all that, I can only surmise that you're not satisfied with your KWV3 and wish you had spent a few quid more and bought Nitrons . That also was sarcasm....

Back on topic, for the roads in the far north, I suspect that more than 400lbs would be a step too far as some of the roads are pretty uneven, my car seems to cope better with them than a stock car by a long way though. The car is comfortable and not snappy at all so as Steve pointed out, there's no right or wrong, just personal preference so it might be worth considering going with what's recommended and changing if you don't like them?
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