Engine Failures
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From: Kiltokyo
Year of Engine Manufacture:2003
Mileage on engine when it failed:24,000 kms
Failed engine number:F20C (Not to hand)
Date of failure:?
Symptoms of the engine:Knocking sound constant
Diagnosis: (if available) Spun main bearings
Number of engines your S has had: On my second 1
More details can be found here if needed....
Engine fail....
Mileage on engine when it failed:24,000 kms
Failed engine number:F20C (Not to hand)
Date of failure:?
Symptoms of the engine:Knocking sound constant
Diagnosis: (if available) Spun main bearings
Number of engines your S has had: On my second 1
More details can be found here if needed....
Engine fail....
Joined: Mar 2004
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From: Market Harborough, Leics.
I've deleted my entries after thinking about what benefit this thread would bring.
Honda knows about all the failures that have happened under warranty and probably knows more than we do as they have supplied the replacements.
Engine failures after warranty will most likely be due to over rev, low oil or abuse at some point in their life, even if the current owner of the car hasn't been responsible for that abuse.
All this thread will do is create the impression that the F20C engine is a weak engine when reality it is not.
All manufacturers will have engine failures, Honda are not exempt from that. But a thread listing all engine failures will give the wrong impression when people come to this forum.
Honda knows about all the failures that have happened under warranty and probably knows more than we do as they have supplied the replacements.
Engine failures after warranty will most likely be due to over rev, low oil or abuse at some point in their life, even if the current owner of the car hasn't been responsible for that abuse.
All this thread will do is create the impression that the F20C engine is a weak engine when reality it is not.
All manufacturers will have engine failures, Honda are not exempt from that. But a thread listing all engine failures will give the wrong impression when people come to this forum.
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From: Banbury, Oxfordshire
Year of Engine Manufacture: 1999 (JDM)
Mileage on engine when it failed: 95000
Failed engine number: 1071
Date of failure: May 2009
Symptoms of the engine: Just lost power.
Diagnosis: Cam chain snapped and badness ensued.
Number of engines your S has had: 2
I didn't take any pics, but it looked just like the ones Mytse posted.
Mileage on engine when it failed: 95000
Failed engine number: 1071
Date of failure: May 2009
Symptoms of the engine: Just lost power.
Diagnosis: Cam chain snapped and badness ensued.
Number of engines your S has had: 2
I didn't take any pics, but it looked just like the ones Mytse posted.
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From: Sunshine Coast - England UK
At the request of the OP i've tidied up the thread just to purely keep the engine failure info. Apologies if this upsets anyone, but feel free to start a seperate thread based on the findings on this one. I think we all know that failures have differing reasons, such as age, maintenance, abuse etc, but the point of this post is to collect data. The "diagnosis" description should capture the background.
To that end please just post failure data from here on in.
To that end please just post failure data from here on in.
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From: Chester
Bokkie, could you edit your details to include the info on the subsequent engines please (See Elijah's post for what I'm after).
I'm after doing some armchair diagnostics on the problem. The failure mode seems pretty consistent (8~9k miles) so I want to try plotting them out and see if I can work out what's going on.
Anyone else who's had one recently could they update too
Thanks
I'm after doing some armchair diagnostics on the problem. The failure mode seems pretty consistent (8~9k miles) so I want to try plotting them out and see if I can work out what's going on.
Anyone else who's had one recently could they update too
Thanks
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From: Hertford
Year of Engine Manufacture: 2001
Mileage on engine when it failed: 35,657
Failed engine number: F20C21010646
Date of failure: 06/05/07
Symptoms of the engine: Running beautifully, a tinkle, then a Kaboom!
Diagnosis: (if available) Threw no.1 rod; whether due to valve head, ring pickup or small-end disintegration unknown.
Number of engines your S has had: That & the new one.
Mileage on engine when it failed: 35,657
Failed engine number: F20C21010646
Date of failure: 06/05/07
Symptoms of the engine: Running beautifully, a tinkle, then a Kaboom!
Diagnosis: (if available) Threw no.1 rod; whether due to valve head, ring pickup or small-end disintegration unknown.
Number of engines your S has had: That & the new one.
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Year of Engine Manufacture: 2000
Mileage on engine when it failed: 175 kilometers
Failed engine number:
Date of failure: april 2017
Symptoms of the engine: Dep rumbling/knocking/rattling when revving, vibrating trough transmission, clutch predal. Knocking/vibration coming from transmission case.
Diagnosis: Main bearings shot, spun rod bearing on cylinder 2 (probably after mains). Replaced entire block assy. with new Geniune Honda block assy. part. n. 10002-pcx-e10
Number of engines your S has had: 1
2nd. failure
Year of Engine Manufacture:2009 10002-pcx-e10
Mileage on engine when it failed:177100km
Failed engine number:
Date of failure: july 2017
Symptoms of the engine: while accelerating engine developed a vibration/knock similar to previous failure. similar simptoms.
Diagnosis: sent entire car to honda dealership and waiting for results.
Number of engines your S has had: 2
Mileage on engine when it failed: 175 kilometers
Failed engine number:
Date of failure: april 2017
Symptoms of the engine: Dep rumbling/knocking/rattling when revving, vibrating trough transmission, clutch predal. Knocking/vibration coming from transmission case.
Diagnosis: Main bearings shot, spun rod bearing on cylinder 2 (probably after mains). Replaced entire block assy. with new Geniune Honda block assy. part. n. 10002-pcx-e10
Number of engines your S has had: 1
2nd. failure
Year of Engine Manufacture:2009 10002-pcx-e10
Mileage on engine when it failed:177100km
Failed engine number:
Date of failure: july 2017
Symptoms of the engine: while accelerating engine developed a vibration/knock similar to previous failure. similar simptoms.
Diagnosis: sent entire car to honda dealership and waiting for results.
Number of engines your S has had: 2
Last edited by klemen123; Aug 17, 2017 at 08:21 AM. Reason: misstype
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Year of Engine Manufacture: 2008
Mileage on engine when it failed: 18,000 Approx. (need to confirm)
Failed engine number: F20C21080886
Date of failure: Oct. 2014
Symptoms of the engine: Knocking vibration felt when the car was under load.
Diagnosis: (if available) TGM Sport in Fleet confirmed the engine was knocking and swarf in the sump. Failure was caused by oil starvation after the oil filter spun loose and engine was run with low oil pressure. Root cause was the oil filter was not torqued up to specification and only hand tight. Engine was shut off as soon as I realised, but this was too late. A week later the engine started knocking. The engine was rebuilt by TGM with all new OEM crank, rods, oversized pistons, oil jets, bearings, oil pump and clutch kit.
Number of engines your S has had: 1
Mileage on engine when it failed: 18,000 Approx. (need to confirm)
Failed engine number: F20C21080886
Date of failure: Oct. 2014
Symptoms of the engine: Knocking vibration felt when the car was under load.
Diagnosis: (if available) TGM Sport in Fleet confirmed the engine was knocking and swarf in the sump. Failure was caused by oil starvation after the oil filter spun loose and engine was run with low oil pressure. Root cause was the oil filter was not torqued up to specification and only hand tight. Engine was shut off as soon as I realised, but this was too late. A week later the engine started knocking. The engine was rebuilt by TGM with all new OEM crank, rods, oversized pistons, oil jets, bearings, oil pump and clutch kit.
Number of engines your S has had: 1