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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SCZ4
Originally Posted by lovegroova' timestamp='1363352802' post='22405489
IIRC, You were complaining about a lack of steering feel, so some more caster might help with that. More camber all round will be more what people call "fast road" and will make things a bit more zippy.

Personally I'd go for a bit more rear toe too, if only to get heat into the tyres a bit more quickly up there in chilly jockland!
Thanks mate, yeah steering feel (or lack of) is the only think I don't like about the car, but looks like my caster is low anyway. I think I'll hand them your recommended settings. Can all of the below be set without adjustable toe arms and other fancy trick bits?


Front:
Caster 6°05'
Camber -1°00'
Toe 0°00'
Total Toe 0°00'

REAR:
Camber -2°00'
Toe 0°25'
Total Toe 0°50'
My settings are for an older car, so go for less toe than that, 15' per side maximum.

No fancy aftermarket bits needed for those settings.

(I take no responsibility if you hate it, in which case try something more like Nick's - as above, there s no "right" answer to this).
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by lovegroova
Originally Posted by SCZ4' timestamp='1363353110' post='22405498
[quote name='lovegroova' timestamp='1363352802' post='22405489']
IIRC, You were complaining about a lack of steering feel, so some more caster might help with that. More camber all round will be more what people call "fast road" and will make things a bit more zippy.

Personally I'd go for a bit more rear toe too, if only to get heat into the tyres a bit more quickly up there in chilly jockland!
Thanks mate, yeah steering feel (or lack of) is the only think I don't like about the car, but looks like my caster is low anyway. I think I'll hand them your recommended settings. Can all of the below be set without adjustable toe arms and other fancy trick bits?


Front:
Caster 6°05'
Camber -1°00'
Toe 0°00'
Total Toe 0°00'

REAR:
Camber -2°00'
Toe 0°25'
Total Toe 0°50'
My settings are for an older car, so go for less toe than that, 15' per side maximum.

No fancy aftermarket bits needed for those settings.
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Will do, thanks! I'll let you guys know how it feels.
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 05:32 AM
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I'm still sticking with what Dixon put on mine as being perfect for me, more camber less rear toe (1.5; 2.5; 0.10). Tyres wear completely even across the tyre and it just feels great
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 06:39 AM
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It took me some persuasion, before LG got it right, of course!

I think less caster gives a far more natural steering feel without the M-B like artificial weight and rubberiness. The sharp turn-in is an S2000 speciality, hence not too much rear toe-in either.

Remember that if you are upping camber, you need to take out a little caster to stop scrubby turn-in too.

I'd also say that the -1°00'/-2°00' camber works brilliantly on 16" but will kill the insides of your 17" dead. Hence why I now am back to OEM camber.
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Graves
I'd also say that the -1°00'/-2°00' camber works brilliantly on 16" but will kill the insides of your 17" dead. Hence why I now am back to OEM camber.
I don't agree with that, my tyres have been on for about 3000 miles and 3 trackdays now and the fronts measure 5mm inside and outside and the rears measure 4mm inside and out. They've worn completely even...
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 06:56 AM
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That's interesting Nick.

I'm actually pondering getting my 16s properly furbed and going back to using them after the winters fun on 16s. It certainly improves ride and you'd imagine grip on some of our less than perfect roads. Hmmm

I put a full set of boots on the 17s last year so need to get some use out of those first
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by WinFreak
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I'd also say that the -1°00'/-2°00' camber works brilliantly on 16" but will kill the insides of your 17" dead. Hence why I now am back to OEM camber.
I don't agree with that, my tyres have been on for about 3000 miles and 3 trackdays now and the fronts measure 5mm inside and outside and the rears measure 4mm inside and out. They've worn completely even...
It really does depend on how many track days you do, I think. I used to wear the outsides of the 16", even with the additional camber! I did used to do trackdays though...

For mainly road useage, it's too much. I'm not the first one to discover that, either.
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 07:52 AM
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And don't forget Win is running with stiff springs and lot of other fancy bits and pieces.
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 08:10 AM
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That's true, the toe arms and reduced toe will reduce the inner wear what would otherwise be created by the camber. Maybe I'm not a very good comparison
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 08:25 AM
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You bloody useless comparison!

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