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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 05:28 PM
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So we all know the S2000 gearbox can be a bit notchy and clumsy, especially from cold. I've done a number of things in my ownership to make it feel better, but it's still not the best. This topic is to cover all the options available that members have done to improve the shift feel and hopefully a reference point for future posters.

To date I have done:

1. Gearbox oil change - Definite must, protection for the gearbox as well as improving changes.
2. Grease shifter - done at approx 50k and there was still some there but dried up, improved the notchy feel drastically.
3. Grease Clutch fork / file down 'nipple' - not sure if I noticed an improvement but it can count as preventative maintenance too - Mine barely had a 'nipple' on it but doesn't help to make it smooth.
4. Clutch pedal adjustment - makes sure clutch is tight and not 'dragging' also less travel on the pedal.
5. Clutch fluid bleed and replace - replaced the fluid twice but with a bleed there was a noticeable improvement as my biting point is now lower (must have had air in the system).
6. Replace clutch master cylinder - old one was fine but getting a bit sticky, more preventative maintenance here too.

Also considering an Engine Torque Damper and a heavier shift knob.

Anything else anyone got to add / suggest?

Thanks.
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Old Nov 8, 2014 | 12:13 AM
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As I've just posted in soylentreds thread-

...And look at driving style, the S2000 doesn't like "snatchy" gear changes, let the box take the stick rather than trying to push it in.
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Old Nov 8, 2014 | 01:02 AM
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Does your model have the clutch delay valve? (04+ I think). I had mine removed and it makes the shift a lot more positive. That was the only thing I didn't like about the facelift compared to the earlier S I had.

That said, either way it is a notchy, mechanical gearbox, but in a good way!
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 02:49 PM
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Double clutch, as I stated in another post.
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 04:34 PM
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The shift in the S is fantastic. I think the best improvement is to drive a car with a completely vague shifter for awhile, then jump back into the S. None of this other stuff like faffing around with a nipple on a fork
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Riknos
So we all know the S2000 gearbox can be a bit notchy and clumsy, especially from cold. I've done a number of things in my ownership to make it feel better, but it's still not the best. This topic is to cover all the options available that members have done to improve the shift feel and hopefully a reference point for future posters.

5. Clutch fluid bleed and replace - replaced the fluid twice but with a bleed there was a noticeable improvement as my biting point is now lower (must have had air in the system).

If the biting point is lower after a bleed then you have introduced air into the system, it should be a higher biting point after removing air
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by richmc
As I've just posted in soylentreds thread-

...And look at driving style, the S2000 doesn't like "snatchy" gear changes, let the box take the stick rather than trying to push it in.
Trudat.

Even now, I still occasionally forget the extra delay on a 6K 1-2 change and get a searing crunch.

90% of it is most people cannot drive a manual to save their lives. It is a very odd skill set, really.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 02:02 AM
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Mechanical sympathy is key. You should be able to/learn to feel the amount of pressure and speed available/required.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 04:47 AM
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Don't rush the 1-2 change! Normally I accelerate reasonably in 1st up to around VTEC point, 5700rpm, then take 2-3 seconds from 1st to 2nd change. It normally just DROPS into 2nd like a glove. The only time this doesn't work, is when I get a little excited or try to prove a point... It then feels slightly messy... Currently only 25k on the clock, so time will tell if this will deteriorate!
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 06:19 AM
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2 second gear change is a lifetime! Rev's will drop loads

Matching revs is key to changing gear correctly. The clutch is only there to assist in changing gear. It doesnt need to be used at all.

As said above getting a feel for the changes is a must especially in a drivers car like ours.
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