Is it just me?
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Originally Posted by dreamer,Mar 2 2005, 12:42 PM
why is it when people make a mistake, they take it out on you?
If I make a mistake, which as lovegroova says all of us do sometimes, i apologise and try to learn from it.
Other people seem to see fit to shout at me or make obscene gestures because they have made a mistake
If I make a mistake, which as lovegroova says all of us do sometimes, i apologise and try to learn from it.
Other people seem to see fit to shout at me or make obscene gestures because they have made a mistake
you are one of the minority.
Most people who buy specialist sports cars and performance motorbikes are enthusiasts and like to drive. So, we are keen to learn from our mistakes
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had a guy in a brand new sales rep vectra today who was absolutely desperate to get past me - nowhere i could go as we were in single lane traffic which was absolutely nose to tail - pull onto the motorway sliproad and he lunges up my inside and manages to overtake me and one other car before having to pull in again - magnificent effort there fella!
think Moggy is right - in general folk with performance cars are more willing to learn, be a considerate driver etc - obviously that's not 100% true bit for the most part it's true i think - not counting ned/chavs who somehow get their grubby mitts in performance cars of course... but those types drive the same no matter what they are driving - basic cars, peeformance cars, buses, white vans - whatever!
think Moggy is right - in general folk with performance cars are more willing to learn, be a considerate driver etc - obviously that's not 100% true bit for the most part it's true i think - not counting ned/chavs who somehow get their grubby mitts in performance cars of course... but those types drive the same no matter what they are driving - basic cars, peeformance cars, buses, white vans - whatever!
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Originally Posted by lovegroova,Mar 2 2005, 12:16 PM
1. Most people don't deliberately go out of their way to endanger others on the road.
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2. The rule I try to stick to is "don't drive like a berk, just because someone else does'
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2. The rule I try to stick to is "don't drive like a berk, just because someone else does'
Point 2.
... although the number of times I've waited at red traffic lights, at roadworks, at night when I could see nothing coming - only to fing the sodding things had failed on red ... 
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Originally Posted by billy_i_vtec,Mar 2 2005, 03:31 PM
had a guy in a brand new sales rep vectra today who was absolutely desperate to get past me - nowhere i could go as we were in single lane traffic which was absolutely nose to tail - pull onto the motorway sliproad and he lunges up my inside and manages to overtake me and one other car before having to pull in again - magnificent effort there fella!
Here's another one - driving home last night got passed by a Clio, fair doos I wasn't in any great rush but it was in town, in a 40 and I was doing 40 and he (let's face it guys it's always a he) BLASTED past me.
I get to the de-restrict signs give it some welly, but still just cruisin'
, on a nice set of bends, when I catch up with the TW4T who is going more slowly out of town than in!!!! 
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From: La Massana, Principat D'Andorra
Originally Posted by cerberus264,Mar 2 2005, 12:42 PM
Suggesting that "Most people don't deliberately go out of their way to endanger others on the road" is a cop out!.
Accidents happen and people get killed as a direct result of these people's non-deliberate actions!
The guy made no mistake - he'd been driving up my arse at a fair speed for 1/2 mile and made an obvious, foolish and dangerous choice to cut in to me as I was exiting a roundabout. He knew what he was doing and there was no excuse.
Bollox to him getting my number - this was about 4 months ago and he hasn't done anything about it. He knew he was in the wrong and he's lucky he didn't kill me and he knows it. (I'm lucky too, of course
Agreed about knives and baseball bats, but despite the unpredictability of such situations, I know how to take care of myself (within reason) and who's to say I wouldn't resort to such tactics. Never underestimate your opponent - that goes for both me and him.
If I did what he did, and someone dislodged my wing mirror I'd think I got off lightly. You just pop em back in again. I don't cause permanent or expensive damage and I have to be really wound up to even go that far. I give a lot of benefit of the doubt before doing stuff like that and he was being ignorant of everything around him. He needed waking up to it.
However, if someone dented my car I'd be incensed but I'd rather that than end up in prison for killing them (non-deliberately so to speak).
I may sometimes make mistakes but they are so rare, and you certainly won't see me make a series of obvious mistakes in a row ...like failing to indicate, making moves without due consideration to other road users, and blocking people out. I'm considerate and patient 90% of the time and I expect everyone else to be the same.
You stick to your 'berk' rule - I make no apology in these circumstances.
Accidents happen and people get killed as a direct result of these people's non-deliberate actions!
The guy made no mistake - he'd been driving up my arse at a fair speed for 1/2 mile and made an obvious, foolish and dangerous choice to cut in to me as I was exiting a roundabout. He knew what he was doing and there was no excuse.
Bollox to him getting my number - this was about 4 months ago and he hasn't done anything about it. He knew he was in the wrong and he's lucky he didn't kill me and he knows it. (I'm lucky too, of course
Agreed about knives and baseball bats, but despite the unpredictability of such situations, I know how to take care of myself (within reason) and who's to say I wouldn't resort to such tactics. Never underestimate your opponent - that goes for both me and him.
If I did what he did, and someone dislodged my wing mirror I'd think I got off lightly. You just pop em back in again. I don't cause permanent or expensive damage and I have to be really wound up to even go that far. I give a lot of benefit of the doubt before doing stuff like that and he was being ignorant of everything around him. He needed waking up to it.
However, if someone dented my car I'd be incensed but I'd rather that than end up in prison for killing them (non-deliberately so to speak).
I may sometimes make mistakes but they are so rare, and you certainly won't see me make a series of obvious mistakes in a row ...like failing to indicate, making moves without due consideration to other road users, and blocking people out. I'm considerate and patient 90% of the time and I expect everyone else to be the same.
You stick to your 'berk' rule - I make no apology in these circumstances.
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Once I'd realised I was still alive and almost safe, but also realised how serious it almost was ...thats when I retaliated!
I like your analogy but I'd actually be more worried about dying by the sword if I 'hadn't' been living by it, that would be unjust and I'm a man of principle.
If I treat others with contempt I can't grumble if they do the same to me.
Likewise if someone treats me with contempt, they shouldn't grumble when I treat them the same.
I like your analogy but I'd actually be more worried about dying by the sword if I 'hadn't' been living by it, that would be unjust and I'm a man of principle.
If I treat others with contempt I can't grumble if they do the same to me.
Likewise if someone treats me with contempt, they shouldn't grumble when I treat them the same.
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Originally Posted by cerberus264,Mar 2 2005, 05:02 PM
Once I'd realised I was still alive and almost safe, but also realised how serious it almost was ...thats when I retaliated!
I like your analogy but I'd actually be more worried about dying by the sword if I 'hadn't' been living by it, that would be unjust and I'm a man of principle.
If I treat others with contempt I can't grumble if they do the same to me.
Likewise if someone treats me with contempt, they shouldn't grumble when I treat them the same.
I like your analogy but I'd actually be more worried about dying by the sword if I 'hadn't' been living by it, that would be unjust and I'm a man of principle.
If I treat others with contempt I can't grumble if they do the same to me.
Likewise if someone treats me with contempt, they shouldn't grumble when I treat them the same.
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Understand where you're coming from, and am sure the guys deserved it, but my friend had his wing mirror kicked by a biker, when the biker wa sin the wrong.
Perhaps biker thought he was in the right, but he wasn't (going s-over a roundabout from a right-only lane), and he damaged the paintwork on myfriends car cos of it....
Perhaps biker thought he was in the right, but he wasn't (going s-over a roundabout from a right-only lane), and he damaged the paintwork on myfriends car cos of it....
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So next time a biker does something stupid - like cutting in front of me and forcing me to brake, just to get back on the right side of the road and out of the way of oncoming traffic, it will OK to mete out a bit of damage to the bike?
FFS
I see no excuse for initating violence if no-one has actually been hurt. Booting someone's car is extremely provocative and asking for trouble. It's also likely to colour the car driver's opinion of ALL bikers. Which is unfair.
Rant by all means, but it should stop there IMO.
FFS
I see no excuse for initating violence if no-one has actually been hurt. Booting someone's car is extremely provocative and asking for trouble. It's also likely to colour the car driver's opinion of ALL bikers. Which is unfair.
Rant by all means, but it should stop there IMO.
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Originally Posted by Nick Graves,Mar 1 2005, 04:15 PM
It's partly the "too thick/lazy to give a fcuk" attitude of modern times.
Someone surprises me every day with new depths of stupidity or lazyness.
IMHO and experience best thing to do is let them get on with it and keep out of their way. Probability is they behave in that manner regularly and it WILL catch them out one day!