so far i have raced a ninja[dont know what cc it was] and blew it away.

and tonight a ducati.totaly out accelerated by him ,10 mph to about 60 mph.but i kept up with him in the twisty bits.
didnt know it was a duck untill he passed me.

anybody else raced a m/b and won.

 

how do you know you both were racing?

 

My 9 year old ZX6R does 0-100 in sub 10 secs.

My 5 year old Ductai monster is around the 10 sec mark.

I promise you the S is in a different league performance-wise, certainly up to a ton.


I think it's unlikely they were trying very hard - though it's quite feasible to keep up with a bike in the twisties if the rider's a not too brave.

S

 

100 on a nsl road gave it away. the duck rider seemed a bit nervous on the bends tho.

tbh i think any bike over 500cc would give the s a thrashing.

 

on the straights you are toast

with the possible exception of braking, where you should have an advantage

if the bike gets in front, you have little chance

so the key is to stay in front of the bike

which you may be able to do in the twisties

but once the road opens up, bye bye

even in the twisties, bikes don't need our space to overtake

and their oomph means they can take greater risks (less time on wrong side of the road, and not needing all of the other lane to overtake)

I'd say with average rider and driver, the bike wins 9 times out of ten

 

 

If you're lapping the nurburghring, you'll be passing more bikes than will be passing you. But then we've got a lot more metal bravery than they have.

A good bike and a good rider is more likely to win, but you're more likely to find a rider that either isn't able or isn't willing to push it.

You get it wrong in a car and maybe you're just scraping the car off the tree. On a bike and someone's scraping you off the tree.

 

Its possible to beat the motorbike rider but not most bikes, if you know what I mean
A lot of people only use their bikes during the summer, as such they may only do a couple of thousand miles per year. Just as they're getting into it again......its time to tuck it away in the garage before the bad weather starts.

I used to think the S wasn't too far off bikes in terms of performance but I had no idea.

Its just simple laws of physics really. A typical bike will weigh around 180kg and put out around 90bhp so...

CBR600F = 90bhp / 180kg = 500 bhp / tonne
S2000 = 240bhp / 1200kg = 200 bhp / tonne

The 0-60mph time for your typical 600cc bike is around 3.8s

I was never interested in testing the S against other cars when I had it, I bought it for driving on empty roads, but I took great pleasure in embarrassing a Subaru WRX STI from a standing start yesterday on the CBR600F. He'd been driving like a knob for the last 5 miles, forcing his way past other cars when there wasn't really room He was really trying, but lost by about the length of a football pitch upto around 120 kleptons per hour

Autocar recently did a 0-100-0 test, here's the results from Two Wheels magazine. Apologies for the poor quality, but orange text on a grey background doesn't photograph too well

The bike used was a Suzuki GSX-R1000 putting out about 159bhp, weight approx 175kg = 908 bhp / tonne, cost approx

 

YZF R1 = 172bhp /172kg = 1000 bhp / tonne.

Collecting it Saturday

 

[QUOTE=moor deybe,Aug 9 2005, 01:54 AM] Its just simple laws of physics really. A typical bike will weigh around 180kg and put out around 90bhp so...

CBR600F = 90bhp / 180kg = 500 bhp / tonne
S2000 = 240bhp / 1200kg = 200 bhp / tonne

The 0-60mph time for your typical 600cc bike is around 3.8s

All in all my bike experiment is turning out to cost the same to run as the S2000 did. Although my CBR600F will get around 42mpg, a set of tyres costing around