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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 03:38 PM
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I am interested in buying a new 2004 s2000 2.2. Does anybody know whether this car will be coming to the UK in the near future or if importing a right hand drive uk spec model is possible.

I have read a few posts that suggest that the 2.2 model is only for the US market (not Japanese). Can anybody confirm this?

Thanks for any help - I am finding it hard to get this type of information
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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The dealers say that it isn't...at least not for the foreseeable future. Whether it'll appear as an "option" in the long term is another question.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 11:17 PM
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Darius

Just get along to Chathams and get yourself a 2004 model pronto - there's not enough s2ki.co.uk contributors in the east of scotland

Most peeps in the UK seem to be glad that Honda has retained the 9000 rpm screamer engine here anyway, so don't feel hard done by by missing out on a 2.2l - there appears to be no power advantage of any significance with the 2.2l.

BTW, if you are really the popstar Darius, shouldn't you be buying a TT, SLK or Boxster
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by euan
Most peeps in the UK seem to be glad that Honda has retained the 9000 rpm screamer engine here anyway, so don't feel hard done by by missing out on a 2.2l - there appears to be no power advantage of any significance with the 2.2l.
Erm, there's only been one F22C dyno result posted so far (from a press car.). That showed around 20bhp increase over the average for an F20C. To early to be sure (wait for more results from customer cars), but it seems Honda has under-rated the new engine. With the gearing differences, and the heavier wheel/tyre combo there's not as much between the cars on the road though.

I'm guessing that Honda hasn't had the F22C approved for EU3 emissions. Cheaper to just get it certified for the US. It's possible that Honda will release the F22C engine here in the future, but for now at least the F22C is US market only.

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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 12:34 AM
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mmm a 2.2L with a 9k redline now that would be a nice mix...
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by X-Ruckus
mmm a 2.2L with a 9k redline now that would be a nice mix...
a 3L , with 9k redline would be even nicer.....
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 01:49 AM
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Except the 2.2 has an 8k redline
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 04:27 AM
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Originally posted by X-Ruckus
mmm a 2.2L with a 9k redline now that would be a nice mix...
Is this technically feasible, and how much of a difference would it make?

(I want to replace my S with a quicker one in a couple of year's time if poss)
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 06:00 AM
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Originally posted by bmarshall
I'm guessing that Honda hasn't had the F22C approved for EU3 emissions. Cheaper to just get it certified for the US. It's possible that Honda will release the F22C engine here in the future, but for now at least the F22C is US market only.

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The same reason that you can get a 3l (or is it 2.5l?) Subaru STi in the US and only 2l cars over here.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by euan
Is this technically feasible, and how much of a difference would it make?

(I want to replace my S with a quicker one in a couple of year's time if poss)
It is technically possible, though not desirable. The bore/stroke ratio isn't as good when stroked to 2.2L, which isn't good for longevity. Toda make a kit to stroke an F20C (and increase the compression ratio at the same time). Expensive to boot. To get the best gains from that setup, you'd need a lot of other changes as well. Better to re-sleve the block to get a slight overbore - aroudn 2.1L. Oh, and it's not hard to lighten the valvetrain a little, to allow the redline on the F20C up a little. 9200 isn't a problem (from 8900 standard), 9500 possible with lightweight valves and titanium retainers. But again, you need to make other changes to make the most of the gains. Simply raising the redline on the standard engine doesn't help with power (though does help with a wider powerband - easier to upshift without dropping below vtec).

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