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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 11:58 AM
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Yes, I've searched the forum and googled.

Having had my geo done at WIM before Xmas, I still get rear bumpsteer which I hoped would have disappeared. I've read about the reasons for it and the anti-bump steer kits available. However:

- Does everyone get it with stock suspension and geo?

- Can it be eliminated with a better geo setting other than the stock Honda?

- Do bumpsteer kits work and which is best?

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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Chinook,Feb 28 2010, 09:58 PM
Yes, I've searched the forum and googled.

Having had my geo done at WIM before Xmas, I still get rear bumpsteer which I hoped would have disappeared. I've read about the reasons for it and the anti-bump steer kits available. However:

- Does everyone get it with stock suspension and geo?

- Can it be eliminated with a better geo setting other than the stock Honda?

- Do bumpsteer kits work and which is best?

Thanks
Yes.
No.
Not as such, the kit is to reduce bumpsteer that is made worse by lowereing, it wont remove it.

BS is designed in and is affected by bushes as well as actual physical design, so you wont eliminate it in a hurry
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 01:34 PM
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if the toe arm mount on the hub was at the same level and angle as the lower arm mount couldn't the toe arm be connect to the lower arm meaning no bs at all? i'm assuming this is what the bs removal kits try and make happen?
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ste_Nova,Feb 28 2010, 11:34 PM
if the toe arm mount on the hub was at the same level and angle as the lower arm mount couldn't the toe arm be connect to the lower arm meaning no bs at all?
No because of the mounting point at the inboard end.

Really hard to explain, but see a car less its coilover and have a play on a jack, it is really interesting how it all ties in...
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 12:02 AM
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m1bjr,

Thanks for explaining, but just to be sure a kit such as this:

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=755460

would be wasted on a stock suspension setup and wouldn't reduce bumpsteer?
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 11:16 AM
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I found that a front lower brace made a huge difference to the way the car handles. It's definitely worth the investment IMHO.

I bought this one from the US for £80 delivered (in black);

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-S2000...sQ5fAccessories
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 12:05 AM
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Thanks, but still keen to know about rear toe arms.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Chinook,Mar 1 2010, 01:02 AM
m1bjr,

Thanks for explaining, but just to be sure a kit such as this:

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=755460

would be wasted on a stock suspension setup and wouldn't reduce bumpsteer?
Bump steer is exagerated if you lower the car. That kit put's it back to how it was before lowering. Having lowered mine slightly with KWv3's, I personally wouldn't bother with the toe arms as the 04 onward car already has honda's anti-bump steer revisions. (I'm considering ditching my megan toe arms and going back to stock arms).

Just out of curiosity, can you describe the behaviour of the negative handling charecteristic you're experiencing? I'm no expert, I just wonder whether it's maybe somthing else. I imagine one rear wheel going over a bump round a corner could result in loss of traction on that wheel and the diff sending power to the other wheel, which may be what you're feeling?
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 12:48 AM
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Didn't Dembo have something which helped to remove passive rear steer.

I dont think that its bump steer, specific, but i certainly helped with the stability of the rear. I'm not going get too technical before i get jumped on

Might be worth a word.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 01:55 AM
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MIP,

In simple terms if one wheel hits a pothole the car appears to move inward/sideways at the rear. If both wheels go over a ridge in the road at the same time nothing happens, apart loose fillings.
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