Ricks Final Drive Set and 100w Bulbs...
Originally Posted by grantedS2k,Aug 29 2005, 11:36 AM
About them final gears! I'm interested, VERY interested, but has anyone here in Blighty actually had them fitted? Did it make a big difference? - I reckon so when you go for a 4.51 or similar, because the revs drop when motorway driving compared to stock and thats a good thing for fuel econ! I do a lot of miles in my S, I gotta think of these things! :-)
EDIT: I'm not aware of a 4.51 final drive for the S2000 - the common ones are 4.44 (Mazdaspeed), 4.57 (Rick's Richmond gear), 4.625 (Kia Sportage) and 4.77 (Mazdaspeed).
Yup, I was thinking about Ricks 4.57 gear set... so I need to go to a 3.8 or something... its not like 6th gear is long winded (but I understand the desire to get there faster!).
Quote "I'd have thought you would need to do a LOT of miles to make the increase in economy offset the cost of the new final drive and the replacement diff......!" Unquote
Replacement diff? Is there something i have missed? From reading Ricks site, its a case of replacing cogs not the differential too.
Quote "I'd have thought you would need to do a LOT of miles to make the increase in economy offset the cost of the new final drive and the replacement diff......!" Unquote
Replacement diff? Is there something i have missed? From reading Ricks site, its a case of replacing cogs not the differential too.
Originally Posted by grantedS2k,Aug 29 2005, 12:26 PM
Yup, I was thinking about Ricks 4.57 gear set... so I need to go to a 3.8 or something... its not like 6th gear is long winded (but I understand the desire to get there faster!).
Quote "I'd have thought you would need to do a LOT of miles to make the increase in economy offset the cost of the new final drive and the replacement diff......!" Unquote
Replacement diff? Is there something i have missed? From reading Ricks site, its a case of replacing cogs not the differential too.
Quote "I'd have thought you would need to do a LOT of miles to make the increase in economy offset the cost of the new final drive and the replacement diff......!" Unquote
Replacement diff? Is there something i have missed? From reading Ricks site, its a case of replacing cogs not the differential too.
You don't need a replacement diff - I've gone for one because it may be cheaper in the long run - I can sell off the spare diff at a later date rather than having to go to the expense (fitting kit and labour) of changing the final gear back if the buyer of my car wants the original 4.1 ratio.
A wise decision Craig! Dare (and may) I ask how much the replacement diff was?!
Its a difficult call, but I think just turning the final gear ratio down would help my long distance driving... and no-one really tries to nail it in 6th gear... do they?!
Its a difficult call, but I think just turning the final gear ratio down would help my long distance driving... and no-one really tries to nail it in 6th gear... do they?!
Originally Posted by grantedS2k,Aug 29 2005, 12:44 PM
A wise decision Craig! Dare (and may) I ask how much the replacement diff was?!
Its a difficult call, but I think just turning the final gear ratio down would help my long distance driving... and no-one really tries to nail it in 6th gear... do they?!
Its a difficult call, but I think just turning the final gear ratio down would help my long distance driving... and no-one really tries to nail it in 6th gear... do they?!
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Granted you beef is with 6th gear here and I can understand that as its too short IMHO. I personally think they should have made the S2000 with 5 sprinting gears and a 6th gear for overdrive cruising. Granted 6th would be pretty gutless but then that doesn't matter when you are buying a car that you know you'll have to stir the box in.
But lowering the final drive isn't the answer as you'll just make the other gears more gutless and probably reduce the S2000 to hot-hatch performance in terms of acceleration. You're fuel savings won't offset how dissapointed you'll feel when punting it down your favourite road.
I personally find myself becoming increasingly interested in changing the final drive to get those gears lower! For a 6 speed box the first 3 gears stretching to around 93mph is a joke IMHO. I'd be looking to almost be done with 4th by then

Craig, what is your final costs for all of the gubbins fitted and set up?
But lowering the final drive isn't the answer as you'll just make the other gears more gutless and probably reduce the S2000 to hot-hatch performance in terms of acceleration. You're fuel savings won't offset how dissapointed you'll feel when punting it down your favourite road.
I personally find myself becoming increasingly interested in changing the final drive to get those gears lower! For a 6 speed box the first 3 gears stretching to around 93mph is a joke IMHO. I'd be looking to almost be done with 4th by then

Craig, what is your final costs for all of the gubbins fitted and set up?
Originally Posted by Shiskine,Aug 29 2005, 11:50 AM
I've never fitted my 100W bulbs as my dainty little hands are too big to reach in from the engine compartment. To be honest, I've not made a serious attempt myself, but I suspect I'll struggle. The last time the car was in the dealer, I asked them to fit them but they ran out of time and claimed they would have to remove the front bumper to do so ... 
Does anyone have any tips on how to switch them and is it really a job for small hands?

Does anyone have any tips on how to switch them and is it really a job for small hands?
I remember a Fit your PRM meet at kelvin's bbq meet, when i fitted about 4 sets for people with big hands!!

You dont need to remove anything - except pull back the plastic from the inner wheel arch
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