I used to experience the RWS effect when cornering hard, that sudden feeling like something just gave way at the back which can be a bit disconcerting as it feels like the onset of oversteer.

Since fitting the Cusco ARB's I don't get it at all any more and I've tried

Is the lack of roll stopping the change of geometry or haven't I pushed it hard enough yet?

 

Less roll will mean less geometry change due to roll (obviously).

But maybe what you're describing isn't the RWS, but the diff at work.

 

Highish speed tightening corner/slip road.
Cornering loads building up then a feeling as if the back slips a few inches then goes firm again.

I assumed this was the RWS effect.

The car now feels a lot more stable and predictable when the cornering loads build up.

 

Having lowered my car with firmer suspension, I now get less roll.

I can still feel the rear 'working'.

Definitely the diff as running over white lines causes 'Wierd Sh1t' to happen at the back which feels like the RWS gone bonkers!

 

If it's under acceleration, the diff is applying more torque to the inside wheel until it slips. It then shifts the torque to the outside wheel. That's what you're feeling: one wheel slips and the other digs in. With less roll, it takes more before that happens.

If you want to try RWS, go round a corner at moderate speed and lift off. The front wants to "tuck in", and you'll want to steer less to compensate. Put the power back on and you'll have to steer more to maintain the line. But only try that at moderate speed.

I love the "loading up" feeling you get with uprated ARBs.

 

It's RWS.

The compliance in the bushes allows it and it's an extremely complax calculation.

Reducing rear toe-in might allow you to dial back in a bit of adjustability.

 

My RL traction control might also be a factor in this.

It cuts in when there is a change in wheel speed of one wheel in comparison to the other three. I guess it will cut power with the diff effect you describe.

I power around most bends and corners wet or dry now and only get oversteer on the 'fun' settings.

The ARB's have certainly transformed the handling.
You can really lean on the rear in corners and it steers like it's on rails.

Only small downside is slightly harder ride on uneven surfaces.

 

i though it sounded like the diff!!

isn't RWS felt when letting off while cornering. Not the stink type! And so tightiening the line of the car in the corner.

The diff feels like it changes the angle of the rear but under sharp cornering under lots of power! more likely other time to but someone else may need to put my straight on that bit.

 

Will the race logic stop the befit of having an LSD in that case.

Mikey. maybe a weight saving... not that you need any!!

 

Different application I think. The RL TC monitors the driven wheels vs the reference (front wheels) for difference in speed between driven and reference under acceleration (application of power). There will be this difference only when the rears have already started the oversteer action. Then it cuts power mildly to a lot to stop the oversteer due to too much power application.

With regard to what the Torsen LSD does, I thought it applies power to the wheel with more grip (the outside in a corner) and not to the inside wheel which inherently has less grip as mentioned above. Then for the Torsen, if the inside wheel lifts and there no grip, then all the power goes no where in particular.

All this happens before the RL TC sees anything- so it does not interfere with the action of the LSD.