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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 01:44 PM
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This takes care of understeer

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFH8Tyo4TDA[/media]

2 minutes on

You can see the 'throttle control' and brakes too, and hard steering - it's not so easy to provoke the back of an S as most people suppose

and a stock one in the best colour

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlMxxZcL0vA&feature=related[/media]
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 01:57 PM
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I'm pretty shit at it, but a mild drift does stop understeer!

http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t...t=MVI_1750.mp4
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tross
Front axle
Left camber -0°30'
Right camber -0°31'
You probably want more front camber.

I've never been much good at the drifting thing either. But if you're understeering you're probably on the power too early, or if it's a tight corner just going in too fast (especially hairpins). You won't easily break traction with a jab of the throttle (at least not in the dry); you need to get the car turning on the way into the corner and then get on the power to make the rear slide. More front camber will help you turn in better.
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dembo
Originally Posted by tross' timestamp='1345498384' post='21951553
Front axle
Left camber -0°30'
Right camber -0°31'
You probably want more front camber.

I've never been much good at the drifting thing either. But if you're understeering you're probably on the power too early, or if it's a tight corner just going in too fast (especially hairpins). You won't easily break traction with a jab of the throttle (at least not in the dry); you need to get the car turning on the way into the corner and then get on the power to make the rear slide. More front camber will help you turn in better.
That sounds pretty good to me

My GEO or at least one of them

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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 11:07 PM
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Go to non stagger. It is a cheap solution.

You can use a cheap s/h pair of rear wheels on the front by boring the inner wheel hub slightly.
There are no clearance issues with oem or slighlty lowered cars on fast road geometry.

I had a lot of success like this on track, the front mechanical grip is superb and it balnces the car better.
You may want to uprate the front roll resistance and definately so if using R rubber.

Or go the route of bigger rear bar. That will loosen it up a bit

Steve
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by m1bjr
Go to non stagger. It is a cheap solution.

You can use a cheap s/h pair of rear wheels on the front by boring the inner wheel hub slightly.
There are no clearance issues with oem or slighlty lowered cars on fast road geometry.

I had a lot of success like this on track, the front mechanical grip is superb and it balnces the car better.
You may want to uprate the front roll resistance and definately so if using R rubber.

Or go the route of bigger rear bar. That will loosen it up a bit

Steve
The one thing I never got around to was the non stagger. I am very surprised more people haven't taken it up.

Although the natural way I drive (from my FWD days) promotes oversteer anyway.

As Dembo and nut say, more front camber and less rear toe. You can also add some toe out at the front.
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 11:19 PM
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My 99 used to do this, check you still have the little flaps under your front bumper which cause lift, I moved mine because they used to catch all the time, but made the car understeer more.

I tackled this by lowering the front more with my coil-overs which helped a little, but the biggest help was fitting an amuse front bumper, which generates a lot more downforce, an expensive fix I know lol
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 08:20 AM
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Thanks for the responses, Think I'll start with the geo settings as I like the wheels that are on the car and buying more is an expensive option!
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