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first time
today was my first time on gingerman and boy was that fun and also the lady was nice to let us test and tune for 40$ cause there was a 1 1/2 left till they closed
maybe this might be a new thing for me if its not to expensive......
i have a couple of pics from my phone
i went with a couple of friends in there 89 m3,05 m3,350z,and evo
maybe this might be a new thing for me if its not to expensive......
i have a couple of pics from my phone
i went with a couple of friends in there 89 m3,05 m3,350z,and evo
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also i need some opinion on what new tires i should get
im using falcon542
what tire pressure do i have to put it at?
what else can i do to stiffing up on turns?
^^just have tein springs and top front strut bar
i cam out of some turns a little wobbally
im using falcon542
what tire pressure do i have to put it at?
what else can i do to stiffing up on turns?
^^just have tein springs and top front strut bar
i cam out of some turns a little wobbally
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Before you go dropping mad cash on your car, learn to drive it stock. Get GOOD at the track, stock THEN mod.
Better coilovers won't make you faster, being GOOD will.
If you are running OEM or equivalent brakes, I'd swap them out for track pads though (this is more of a safety item than a mod.) Carbotech XP8's front and rear are my reccomendation. Also flush the brake fluid with DOT4 fluid, either Motul600 or ATE Superblue.
Better coilovers won't make you faster, being GOOD will.
If you are running OEM or equivalent brakes, I'd swap them out for track pads though (this is more of a safety item than a mod.) Carbotech XP8's front and rear are my reccomendation. Also flush the brake fluid with DOT4 fluid, either Motul600 or ATE Superblue.
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Welcome to the wonderful world of tracking!!!
Gingerman is where I popped my track-cherry as well and I've been hooked ever since.
First, I HIGHLY recommend doing a track day that offers instruction. Test and tunes are fun, but you'd be surprised at how far a little instruction can go (assuming you didn't have instruction from someone there or your friends).
Second, I would recommend your first mod be to go back to stock springs. I don't know how the the Tein's are, but you might find a stock setup is actually more balanced. But you should be fine if you keep them.
ruexp67's (and mine and lot's of other track guy's) logic is simple. You don't change multiple variables in any experiment. And as a beginner to tracking, you are the most volatile variable there is. Keep everything the same and as you start to get better, you'll recognize what needs to be changed by adjusting your driving technique and what needs to be changed by adjusting your car. I ran a stock AP1 for a few years before I changed anything on my car. And even when I felt I was good enough to recognize what needed to be moded for my driving style, I found I really didn't have to change much at all. The S2000 is one of the most capable track cars from the factory IMO.
You may want to change crappy tires, but again it's not necessary. I've seen beginners jump straight to r-comps. The problem with this is r-comp's hide mistakes. Everyone make mistakes (beginners moreso) and the only way to learn from them is to be aware of them. If you do want to change anything, tires should be first. I would recommend a good summer tire like the Bridgestone RE11, Dunlop Direzza Star Spec's, or Kumho XS (what I run).
Better brake pads and fluid will be essential as well - especially as you get faster and if you go to other track's.
As for your comment about if it's not too expensive - it can get expensive and quick. However, you can keep it to a minimum if you focus on what's important - your driving. For example, don't spend $2k on suspension when you can do $2k on track days. The seat time will make you faster than any car mod could and you'll have fun doing it.
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Pat has hit it right on.
If money is an issue. I would do as above first cause of cost bleed out the old brake fluid and run fluid listed above along with race pads, again listed above is great choice. But there are lots.
Tires add tons of fun but do cost lots and I agree with Pat seat time is the best thing there is for the cost and the most fun way to spend money.
It looks like you have BBS rims is that right. Don't ruin those beautiful wheels on the track, and the weight is huge. So find some stock wheels and get some rubber on those not your nice wheels.
And a track day with instruction will help the most, but get the brake fluid done first. Gingerman is a great track to start on.
Have fun listen to instructors and keep drivin.
Keith
If money is an issue. I would do as above first cause of cost bleed out the old brake fluid and run fluid listed above along with race pads, again listed above is great choice. But there are lots.
Tires add tons of fun but do cost lots and I agree with Pat seat time is the best thing there is for the cost and the most fun way to spend money.
It looks like you have BBS rims is that right. Don't ruin those beautiful wheels on the track, and the weight is huge. So find some stock wheels and get some rubber on those not your nice wheels.
And a track day with instruction will help the most, but get the brake fluid done first. Gingerman is a great track to start on.
Have fun listen to instructors and keep drivin.
Keith
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thanks guys for advise
i see what you guys are saying about learning how to drive the car with all stock parts first which i will do.
<pantium> i will take your advise and get instructions on how to take the turns how to brake and what gears i should be in.i think i was doing it good for all i know its prob wrong.
<ruex>ever since i got the car i never changed the pads so i think they are stock from what i know
i see what you guys are saying about learning how to drive the car with all stock parts first which i will do.
<pantium> i will take your advise and get instructions on how to take the turns how to brake and what gears i should be in.i think i was doing it good for all i know its prob wrong.
<ruex>ever since i got the car i never changed the pads so i think they are stock from what i know
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Originally Posted by patinum,Jul 17 2009, 08:32 AM
Welcome to the wonderful world of tracking!!!
Gingerman is where I popped my track-cherry as well and I've been hooked ever since.
First, I HIGHLY recommend doing a track day that offers instruction. Test and tunes are fun, but you'd be surprised at how far a little instruction can go (assuming you didn't have instruction from someone there or your friends).
Second, I would recommend your first mod be to go back to stock springs. I don't know how the the Tein's are, but you might find a stock setup is actually more balanced. But you should be fine if you keep them.
ruexp67's (and mine and lot's of other track guy's) logic is simple. You don't change multiple variables in any experiment. And as a beginner to tracking, you are the most volatile variable there is. Keep everything the same and as you start to get better, you'll recognize what needs to be changed by adjusting your driving technique and what needs to be changed by adjusting your car. I ran a stock AP1 for a few years before I changed anything on my car. And even when I felt I was good enough to recognize what needed to be moded for my driving style, I found I really didn't have to change much at all. The S2000 is one of the most capable track cars from the factory IMO.
You may want to change crappy tires, but again it's not necessary. I've seen beginners jump straight to r-comps. The problem with this is r-comp's hide mistakes. Everyone make mistakes (beginners moreso) and the only way to learn from them is to be aware of them. If you do want to change anything, tires should be first. I would recommend a good summer tire like the Bridgestone RE11, Dunlop Direzza Star Spec's, or Kumho XS (what I run).
Better brake pads and fluid will be essential as well - especially as you get faster and if you go to other track's.
As for your comment about if it's not too expensive - it can get expensive and quick. However, you can keep it to a minimum if you focus on what's important - your driving. For example, don't spend $2k on suspension when you can do $2k on track days. The seat time will make you faster than any car mod could and you'll have fun doing it.
Skills buy things. Things don't buy skills.