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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 03:01 AM
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Rolling fenders is definitely not a bad thing my friend. It can be done professionally and look just like it always has. I have the fenders on my DC5 rolled AND pulled every so slightly and you can NOT tell. It's a very clean looking job and I don't have to worry about my tires doing more damage than rolling the fenders ever could.

Look up some of the damaged caused to the fenders by wheels. That will make you run screaming to rent a fender roller lol.

Just as others have said. Using a freaking bat or a pipe is trashy and should never be done that way. There's actual tools made specially for rolling fenders.

Anyway, all that being said. I'm about to have my friend (who did my DC5) do my fenders on my AP2. I'm lucky that he's incredible at it. Find someone who's work is good and someone you can trust.

Good luck mate!
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 05:36 AM
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Enkei PF01 17x8 +50 front, PF01-SS 17x9 +60 rear. Easy fit, no mods required, look similar to the Work CRs.
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 05:38 AM
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I rolled my fronts. Had never done it before, but did some internet research, borrowed a roller from a friend, and took my time. You can't tell by looking from the outside of the car.
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Skullkid24
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Lol. If you want no fender mods you don't want my wheel setup. All the info is in my build thread link in my signature.
Your fenders don't even look rolled to me.. Maybe I should reconsider the idea ha.
As I said there is a right way to do it where it isn't noticeable. There is a lot of wrong ways to do it as well. I have rolled a ton of s2000 fenders here in Seattle over the past 3 years. This is why you need to ask the S2000 community around you where they go. I would bet there is someone they trust and can provide pics of his work. If I solely based my knowledge of rolled fenders off the random cars I see then I would be concerned as well since most of these idiots just hammer the shit out of there fenders and they look like crap. It takes time and patients to do it right. Just look through some of the official wheel threads int he gallery. The rpf1 thread is a good one since those require fender rolling.
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by B serious
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RPF1's are not really good for autox on this car besides the weight.

When you go wider, especially running 17X9 with 255's and if you are working the suspension hard, you want offsets over 60mm.

17X9 +62's and you will have a lot more setup options. You still need to roll the fenders.
RPF1's are very light.

Wat?

Nope.

RPF1's are very light - I said that?

Wat?

Nope ...didnt say that at all.


I said besides weight, they arent that great. They weigh 17 lbs last I checked, same as the PF01 and 1 lb less than the TR's that many people run. They are on par with every wheel recommended for STR class on TireRack for this car. They weigh about 1 lb more than the 6UL's that are so very coveted. That doesnt make them the lightest 17X9 out there, but 17 lbs is not bad at all for the size, price and strength for this wheel.
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 09:55 AM
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As others have said, rolling the fronts is not noticeable at all if done right. Just get it done by someone reputable that can do it right. You can still keep the fender liners in, etc. (mine are still in).

I dont like poorly done mods either but I would not hesitate to have them rolled if they were not already as long as it is done correctly. And I think someone else already said it, but if you see pics of what happens if the fitment is off and the wheel catches the fender you will see why we say roll them. A cracked and split fender edge sucks

The PF01's are a good choice as someone mentioned. Good wheel, decent on the weights and you can get it in good fitments. 949 was supposed to come out with some new 6UL's in our fitment in May, but last I heard they still arent out but I havent really kept up with it either. You can still run other offsets but just do a lot of checking on what you need to do to make them fit for the ride height and settings you are using.

Also, camber really isnt a mod if you are staying in stock settings. With some lowering you can get -2.0 to -2.5 degrees up front with the stock adjustors. That is just an alignment setting that can be undone anytime. You arent hurting the car by doing that. Now, if you wanted run more camber for racing\autox purposes (or I guess for those guys that just run super camber to be "hellaflush") you would need aftermarket ball joints up front. But, you should not need to run that much for what you want.
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Old Jul 28, 2015 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by engifineer
As others have said, rolling the fronts is not noticeable at all if done right. Just get it done by someone reputable that can do it right. You can still keep the fender liners in, etc. (mine are still in).

I dont like poorly done mods either but I would not hesitate to have them rolled if they were not already as long as it is done correctly. And I think someone else already said it, but if you see pics of what happens if the fitment is off and the wheel catches the fender you will see why we say roll them. A cracked and split fender edge sucks

The PF01's are a good choice as someone mentioned. Good wheel, decent on the weights and you can get it in good fitments. 949 was supposed to come out with some new 6UL's in our fitment in May, but last I heard they still arent out but I havent really kept up with it either. You can still run other offsets but just do a lot of checking on what you need to do to make them fit for the ride height and settings you are using.

Also, camber really isnt a mod if you are staying in stock settings. With some lowering you can get -2.0 to -2.5 degrees up front with the stock adjustors. That is just an alignment setting that can be undone anytime. You arent hurting the car by doing that. Now, if you wanted run more camber for racing\autox purposes (or I guess for those guys that just run super camber to be "hellaflush") you would need aftermarket ball joints up front. But, you should not need to run that much for what you want.

I agree, I'd check out the PF01s or the TRM c3's, paired with some nice rubber for auto x. I heard the 949's will be due out maybe this December? I might have heard wrong, but they will offer a 17x10 et55 offset. Which gets me excited.
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Old Jul 28, 2015 | 01:39 PM
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Alright then, follow up question. Will switching to 17x9s on all four corners help or hurt performance? Stock wheels are staggered. Any reason to run lower offsets other than different wheel choices? I did some fender rolling research and have decided I would like to roll my fenders and go half an inch lower. What is the best size and tire setup I can run like that? I know PF-01s only go up to 9in in the rear. Would I even need anything higher than that?
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 07:44 AM
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A square setup is good (mainly to get as much tire as you can up front). However, you will want more front bar for sure in that setup, as you are adding more front grip in relation to the rear on an already loose car. So I generally would say if you are staying on a softer (softer than Karcepts, Moddiction, Gendron, etc) front bar you may want to stay staggered. If you are going with a bigger bar then the square setup is nice (plus it lets you rotate tires )
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by engifineer
A square setup is good (mainly to get as much tire as you can up front). However, you will want more front bar for sure in that setup, as you are adding more front grip in relation to the rear on an already loose car. So I generally would say if you are staying on a softer (softer than Karcepts, Moddiction, Gendron, etc) front bar you may want to stay staggered. If you are going with a bigger bar then the square setup is nice (plus it lets you rotate tires )
I have decided to run 17x9 +60 offset PF01s all the way around with 255 tires. Probably going to lower the car half an inch and run higher spring rates up front. Do you think this setup would rub? Also, what front bar would you recommend?
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