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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 12:34 PM
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Here's the deal. At about 16,000 miles my rear S-02s were almost to the wear indicators and I was hydroplaning on the expressways so I decided to buy S-03s for the rears. Now I have about 22,000 and the insides of my S-02s (fronts) are bald so I need to replace them. I was checking my S-03s (rears) and found that I have between 1/10th - 2/10ths left of tread on them before the wear indicators! It's only been 6,000 miles! I never spin the tires, I never drift. What's the deal? Have other people experienced this?

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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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YES! I noticed this also. My rear S-03's are balder than Telly Savalas, and it happened quickly. I also don't drive too nuts.

The wear has surprised me so much that I am thinking about just getting S-02's in my size - 255/50/17, since they can't wear any faster than the S-03's. See my thread here:

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.php?...threadid=133076

Jim is having his people check the size...
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 08:17 PM
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Yep, me too. With 9-10000 miles on a set of 245/45 SO-3's, I had a swath about 4 inches across the MIDDLE of my tires that were completely smooth. Not to the wear bars, completely smooth. And this was with rear tire pressure at 26-27 psi. Granted, the last few hundred miles of use were extremely abusive, but in short: yes, it is normal for SO-3's to wear just as fast or faster than the stock SO-2's.
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 04:13 AM
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Bald S-03's, chicken strip style.

click the picture to zoom in...

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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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get your alignment checked...

it's the toe in in the rear that causes the wear not how much drifting you do or whatever... I would have thought everyone knew this by now...
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 08:52 AM
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Nate, thanks. The car was aligned about 2 months ago, with these wheels/tires, at the shop that preps Wei-Shen Chin's race cars.

But, I'll check it again...
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 04:25 AM
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chiung,

having your car aligned at a race shop will provide a very good "handling" alignment (they're in the "go-fast" business).

they may not have considered tire wear when doing your alignment......

this has happened to me in the past.

in my case, when i questioned the race shop, the reply was "if you want a conservative alignment, take it to the dealer, because you're not gonna get it from us".....

just thought i'd throw that out there.....
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 05:23 AM
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Thanks PLYRS 3, I'll get the alignment checked, and also find the alignment specs I have. I think my post was a little misleading, the shop is a regular "civilian" garage, although they are biased towards performance cars and also happen to prep Formula Mazda's, NSX's, and S2000's for track duty.

I didn't specify to the tech that I would be tracking the car, so I assumed he would have done a street alignment. But I guess I should check.

Any other people with short S-03 life have "correct" street alignments?
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 05:56 AM
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The Honda spec for the toe in has a wide spread and still be within spec. You would want the rear toe in to be at 4mm. The OE spec is 6mm +- 2mm. At 8mm you are still within spec but you get no tread life.

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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 08:32 AM
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Interesting. My alignment was also "within spec" but I don't remember what the toe spec was. I'll have to go see if I can find the printout.
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