Sumer Tires and Winter cold
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Originally Posted by jetboater' timestamp='1381850843' post='22828484
[quote name='PureFunction' timestamp='1381850023' post='22828465'][quote name='jetboater' timestamp='1381773065' post='22826961'][quote name='PureFunction' timestamp='1381728032' post='22826093']Summer tires are still going to grip better than all seasons when it is dry out, even when it is cold.
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My issue is telling a newby owner who is asking for recommendations on tires for winter driving that summer tires grip better than all seasons in the cold (when every manufacturer of the tires say they do not)------as you know, S2Ks need all the grip they can get--especially for folks new to our cars.
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a very long time ago, 1970's... there was this blue tire.. maybe it was a brand name like Metzler.. anyway, back then the big sale pitch was the rubber compound used, and how this brand would hold up to winter weather conditions better, because the rubber wouldn't freeze up as the competition would back then.. after reading about winter tires, it seems that technology is still how to consider ones use of say a car like this one... tire rack had several choices.. they all looked good.. they seem to mention constructed for colder weather climates and ice conditions as such.. 
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1. I thought my Bridgestone Blizzaks and Dunlop ??? that I had were both performance winter tires; the tread design is similar on both, which, I thought gave it the "performance" handle.
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Originally Posted by PureFunction' timestamp='1381728032' post='22826093
Summer tires are still going to grip better than all seasons when it is dry out, even when it is cold.
No!!
summer tires get rock hard and lose most of their grip at tempuratures under 40F. Their rubber compound is designed to work at higher ambient temperatures.
This is what Bridgestone says about the AP2 OEM Potenza RE050s in their own description of the tire-----"It is not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice." and what they say about the AP1 OEM Potenza S-02 ----- "Bridgestone S-02 and Potenza S-02 tires are tuned for dry and wet conditions, but like all summer tires are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice."
May want to give Jim at Tire Rack a call to discuss pros and cons of each option---he's the one that covers this tire forum for Tire Rack. He lives over in South Bend so he'll be familar with Indy weather and he drives an S2000 himself. You can call Tire Rack and ask for him.
http://blog.tirerack.com/blog/motors...-and-negatives
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...sp?techid=220&
good comparision on the differences between summer, all seaseon, and snow tires---
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=116
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This is my second S. Over the last 6 years I have daily driven an S over 80,000 miles in all sorts of weather in the Northeast. I drove my first winter on summer tires. This is when I found out that there is an extreme difference in the grip of summer tires once the weather gets below 40 degrees. The next winter I invested in a set of snows on an AP1 wheel. Best and most useful mod yet. Do not drive the winter on summer tires. It will be a big mistake.
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2. Most of his driving is just back and forth to work, which is close, but he still loves doing it in his "new" yellow 04 S.
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Pay for a set of winter tires or pay the deductible after the accident? 
I'd rather have the winter tires.
If he owns the car long enough, he'll have to replace his tires someday. Might as well buy the winter tires now. In the long run, it doesn't cost anything extra.
I'd rather have the winter tires.
If he owns the car long enough, he'll have to replace his tires someday. Might as well buy the winter tires now. In the long run, it doesn't cost anything extra.