Where did the PF01 thread go? (It has been added to this thread)
11-14-2012, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TerminatioN' timestamp='1352910749' post='22150609
Yeah I know those will fit. Was specifically wondering about the 17x9 +48 PF01s.
Thanks though.
Thanks though.
The 17x8.5 +40 PF01s on my FD clear StopTechs by a HUGE amount, about an inch I'd estimate. S2k would have about 15mm less clearance, but would still clear easily.
Thus the 17x8.5s (which are PF01, non SS) have a different design/fitment (at least as far as BBKs) go.
Anyways... the Spoon calipers are known to be quite a bit smaller than Stoptechs... so if they only clear the 17x9 +48 by 2mm then I highly doubt they will clear Stoptechs without spacers.
11-14-2012, 09:41 AM
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I wasn't aware that you were asking about the PF01SS. Contact King at Enkei, send him the StopTech template, he'll tell you if they'll fit or not.
02-28-2016, 12:40 PM
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Ok let me know if this is annoying but its the best option to post the info from the old thread to this one.
The higher the offset, +45-65 and up, means the more the wheel mounts towards the center of the car, allowing better fender clearance, and thus wider tires.
If you run a lower offset, +15 to +30 or so, the wheel itself will be more flush to the fender, since it's mounting position is farther away from the center of the car. As the wheel is more flush, there's a greater chance of rubbing with a straight tire, hence stretch and narrow tires are needed.
The person above explained it, but to put it in other words basically a higher positive offset moves the wheel rim closer to the car. Lower moves the wheel rim outwards away from the car. If you start running tires that just barely fit, then you need to have the perfect offset to place the tire just right. Too high offset and the tire rubs on the inside (control arm), too low offset and it rubs on the outside (fender).
With a 255 tire non-staggered setup on 17x9s, my understanding is that around a +60-+63 is ideal to place it right in that sweet spot. So these would be great.
But I probably won't be patient enough and will just get 6ULRs since I need wheels before the winter is over. Maybe I'll get a set of these later though as rains.
You could solve this by running spacers but that in it self defeats the entire purpose of purchasing such high offset wheels. Fender mods are inevitable. As for the rubbing. This tends to occur when the suspension is under load. You can check out the 6ULR wheels thread, there are many accounts of people rubbing on the inside at the front running 255/40 on a 17x9 +63 wheel. This could be solved by running stiff springs over 10K, the amount of camber you run, and using a 245/40 sized tire. +3mm may be enough to prevent the rubbing. Another issue is rubbing the control arm at full steering wheel lock.
Originally Posted by ryoga4523,Dec 1 2010, 06:20 PM
I am slightly ignorant to offsets, but I thought that the lower the positive (+) offset, the more of a lip you will have; thus a wider tire would be needed, and a more narrow tire would be needed for higher positive offsets, allowing for fitment with out need to roll fenders or cut rear bumper tabs. Again, I am a little clueless when it comes to offsets, so please correct me if I am wrong. But either way, these rims are on fire 
If you run a lower offset, +15 to +30 or so, the wheel itself will be more flush to the fender, since it's mounting position is farther away from the center of the car. As the wheel is more flush, there's a greater chance of rubbing with a straight tire, hence stretch and narrow tires are needed.
Originally Posted by ryoga4523,Dec 1 2010, 03:20 PM
I am slightly ignorant to offsets, but I thought that the lower the positive (+) offset, the more of a lip you will have; thus a wider tire would be needed, and a more narrow tire would be needed for higher positive offsets, allowing for fitment with out need to roll fenders or cut rear bumper tabs. Again, I am a little clueless when it comes to offsets, so please correct me if I am wrong. But either way, these rims are on fire
With a 255 tire non-staggered setup on 17x9s, my understanding is that around a +60-+63 is ideal to place it right in that sweet spot. So these would be great.
But I probably won't be patient enough and will just get 6ULRs since I need wheels before the winter is over. Maybe I'll get a set of these later though as rains.
The problem with a high offset like +60 is that most wheels with this offset:
* Will not clear any after market clalipers like the Spoons, Stop Tech, AP, Performance Friction, Brembo.
* If you want to run nonstaggered 255x40x17 they will rub on the inside. There is some variation depending of the tire size and brand.
* Will not clear any after market clalipers like the Spoons, Stop Tech, AP, Performance Friction, Brembo.
* If you want to run nonstaggered 255x40x17 they will rub on the inside. There is some variation depending of the tire size and brand.
Originally Posted by markhs2,Jan 8 2011, 11:45 AM
The problem with a high offset like +60 is that most wheels with this offset:
* Will not clear any after market clalipers like the Spoons, Stop Tech, AP, Performance Friction, Brembo.
* If you want to run nonstaggered 255x40x17 they will rub on the inside. There is some variation depending of the tire size and brand.
* Will not clear any after market clalipers like the Spoons, Stop Tech, AP, Performance Friction, Brembo.
* If you want to run nonstaggered 255x40x17 they will rub on the inside. There is some variation depending of the tire size and brand.
You could solve this by running spacers but that in it self defeats the entire purpose of purchasing such high offset wheels. Fender mods are inevitable. As for the rubbing. This tends to occur when the suspension is under load. You can check out the 6ULR wheels thread, there are many accounts of people rubbing on the inside at the front running 255/40 on a 17x9 +63 wheel. This could be solved by running stiff springs over 10K, the amount of camber you run, and using a 245/40 sized tire. +3mm may be enough to prevent the rubbing. Another issue is rubbing the control arm at full steering wheel lock.Love them, 17x9 +60 would be great for a non-staggered 255 setup. This may be my next set, possibly longer studs and a 10mm spacer in the rear
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I think it's out now: http://www.enkei.co.jp/jp/products/w...1ss/pf01ss.pdf
Tirerack has them in Apr, I've just asked them.
Tirerack has them in Apr, I've just asked them.