A close call
Could have lost a buddy this weekend due to a failure at the crimp of his OEM brake line. Car is an '07 with about 70k miles, ~2 years of tracking and autox. He was lucky enough to keep the car out of the wall at HMS turn 6. What is worst was he had his other friend in the passenger seat (HPDE4) I'll see if he'll share the video.
If you are tracking your car regularly you really should replace the lines at least once.

On a lighter side we learned you can use AP1 lines in a pinch to get you home. They thread just enough to hold.
If you are tracking your car regularly you really should replace the lines at least once.

On a lighter side we learned you can use AP1 lines in a pinch to get you home. They thread just enough to hold.
Cale died from a similar brake line failure. This is the youngest S2000 I've seen have this problem though. Although I think one time trialer had something similar happen in his 08 CR.
I would replace lines every two years for a tracked car.
I would replace lines every two years for a tracked car.
The Cale analysis thread from robrob:
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/650...t/page__st__43
I may put a reminder in my phone to bump these threads once a year in the Spring for the site.
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/650...t/page__st__43
I may put a reminder in my phone to bump these threads once a year in the Spring for the site.
That is the exact same failure Cale died from. Replace your OEM lines if you're going to regularly track you S. Aftermarket lines should be replaced every 5 years or so too.
Cale's right front caliper:
Cale's right front caliper:
Could have lost a buddy this weekend due to a failure at the crimp of his OEM brake line. Car is an '07 with about 70k miles, ~2 years of tracking and autox. He was lucky enough to keep the car out of the wall at HMS turn 6. What is worst was he had his other friend in the passenger seat (HPDE4) I'll see if he'll share the video.
If you are tracking your car regularly you really should replace the lines at least once.

On a lighter side we learned you can use AP1 lines in a pinch to get you home. They thread just enough to hold.
If you are tracking your car regularly you really should replace the lines at least once.

On a lighter side we learned you can use AP1 lines in a pinch to get you home. They thread just enough to hold.
Glad to hear car and driver are ok, that could have been very bad.
I read up on the threads about Cale and changed my lines a few weeks after that. Looks to be the exact same failure. I don't track the car, but I beat on it hard enough that I don't want to have to worry about the brake lines.
Always good to post reminders so thank you for that
Brakes are one thing I hate to spend money on but when you have brakes that work well it's such a good feeling. I've got rotors/lines/pads/fluid all sitting at home waiting to be done.
Brakes are one thing I hate to spend money on but when you have brakes that work well it's such a good feeling. I've got rotors/lines/pads/fluid all sitting at home waiting to be done.
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Turn 6 used to be safer/slower when it had the gravel/sand. Now that its just straight concrete you won't be slowing down much.
Did an icy/wet track weekend at MSR-Cresson this weekend on OEM lines. I will be swapping mine before the next event.
Did an icy/wet track weekend at MSR-Cresson this weekend on OEM lines. I will be swapping mine before the next event.
The OEM calipers are pretty small for hard track use and get extremely hot--the calipers discolor completely on one track day for me. My Accord calipers are bigger and heavier but they handle the heat much better and don't discolor at all. The extreme heat of the stock caliper cooks the hose end and weakens it which causes the line failure.









