Harold Scruby
08-02-2007, 10:33 PM
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I like your response! Brilliant 
. Be sure to scan it in and post it up so that I may fwd it on to my work colleagues in the hope that it becomes viral.
I had a big argument on another forum with someone that had started a thread entitled "Pedestrian Crossings".
In the thread he went on to say,
This didn't sit well with me, and I immediately assumed the man was an angsty teen. I was wrong. The ensuing argument revealed he was a 30+ year old man, with two children...
When asked if he had taught his children to cross the road in a similar fashion and if it would be affirming to him to see his children killed on a pedestrian crossing, he mentioned that he had "taught them the right way to cross the road".
His stupidity astounds me still.
. Be sure to scan it in and post it up so that I may fwd it on to my work colleagues in the hope that it becomes viral.I had a big argument on another forum with someone that had started a thread entitled "Pedestrian Crossings".
In the thread he went on to say,
I'll admit it, I don't look to see what the traffic is doing when I'm a pedestrian and using a pedestrian crossing. Zebra crossing, lights, it makes no difference. When I've got the right of way, I'll just step out on the road, without bothering to check if there's a car coming.
Sure, I've come close to being hit at times, I've even belted the roof of cars that have barely (and I mean barely!) missed me.
Look at it this way, if you're driving along the road, there's a street intersecting the one you're on but you have right of way, do you check every time to see if there's something coming? I know I don't. Being a pedestrian is no different. If you have to give way, do so. If you've got the right of way, **** 'em, I say!
Sure, I've come close to being hit at times, I've even belted the roof of cars that have barely (and I mean barely!) missed me.
Look at it this way, if you're driving along the road, there's a street intersecting the one you're on but you have right of way, do you check every time to see if there's something coming? I know I don't. Being a pedestrian is no different. If you have to give way, do so. If you've got the right of way, **** 'em, I say!
When asked if he had taught his children to cross the road in a similar fashion and if it would be affirming to him to see his children killed on a pedestrian crossing, he mentioned that he had "taught them the right way to cross the road".
His stupidity astounds me still.
08-03-2007, 03:55 AM
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Statistics and physics demonstrate that a speed limit of between 40 and 50 km/h in built up areas significantly reduce the risk of, and the severity of motor vehicle accidents. It has been a more common mandate in Australian communities. I would suggest that those who find it inappropriate should relocate to rural areas where the speed limit may be higher.
08-03-2007, 05:24 AM
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Yeah, but 75% of statistic are made up on the spot.
The thing is, there is no suggestion that she was speeding or that she was even doing the limit. I know where it happened and it's within 10m of a crossing and a Give Way sign. I would suggest she was probably doing about 20kph at the time.
So, Mr Physics McStatistics, please tell me at what speed limit it is safe for a toddler to run in front of a car? Because your logic seems to suggest that our only course of action is to reduce speed limits.
The thing is, there is no suggestion that she was speeding or that she was even doing the limit. I know where it happened and it's within 10m of a crossing and a Give Way sign. I would suggest she was probably doing about 20kph at the time.
So, Mr Physics McStatistics, please tell me at what speed limit it is safe for a toddler to run in front of a car? Because your logic seems to suggest that our only course of action is to reduce speed limits.
08-03-2007, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by S2KPsychosis,Aug 3 2007, 09:55 PM
Statistics and physics demonstrate that a speed limit of between 40 and 50 km/h in built up areas significantly reduce the risk of, and the severity of motor vehicle accidents. It has been a more common mandate in Australian communities. I would suggest that those who find it inappropriate should relocate to rural areas where the speed limit may be higher.
"Statistics and physics" would then demonstrate that 100% of accidents that occurred on city roads were exactly the same as those found on the sidewalk.
Why stop at reducing the speed limit? The roads that were built for cars are dangerous for those people that walk on them. Easy solution. Remove the cars altogether! Surely a person that could come up with the above quote would agree with me...
08-03-2007, 05:30 PM
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Sorry to create angst. I probably should add that pedestrian education is more important than all the above. There is no safe speed to walk out in front of a moving car. I have 2 little ones and, even though I may seem paranoid, they go nowhere near the road.
08-03-2007, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by S2KPsychosis,Aug 4 2007, 11:30 AM
they go nowhere near the road.
08-04-2007, 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by AusS2000,Aug 4 2007, 11:36 AM
That's the smartest thing you've said. If you keep kids away from a busy road it really doesn't matter if the limit is 40, 50, or 120.
Now that would truly be scary.