The 2012 Indycar Thread
12-02-2011, 04:41 AM
#1
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The 2012 Indycar Thread
Since i didn't see anything for next year's Indycar series, i figure i start a thread....
i read yesterday that Newman Haas will not race the 2012 season. News here
http://www.newman-haas.com/news2011....rticipation-82
i read yesterday that Newman Haas will not race the 2012 season. News here
http://www.newman-haas.com/news2011....rticipation-82
12-05-2011, 11:59 AM
#6
I was reading up Gordon Kirby's column and there are some interesting comments about the 2012 car, arguing that the new car is only a small improvement over the outgoing 2011 car:
Ashmore has a bleak view of the process that took place in last year's contest for IndyCar's 2012 car. He believes each of the contestants was used unethically by IndyCar and Dallara to produce the new car.
"In my view the way they went about it was quite dishonest. All of us competing car builders had to sign our ideas away. All our ideas went into a pot and we had to sign a document saying that if we didn't win the contract they kept our ideas.
"That's one thing, but the sad part is they awarded the contract to a racing car building company in Italy who are just building another in a range of racing cars. It's a lot like their other cars and they're not using all the ideas that we put forward. They're only scratching the surface and, as I say, making a five percent step. They completely ignored a lot of what we suggested. They've just done what they felt like.
"All of our ideas and Lola's ideas and Swift's and the Delta Wing group's ideas went in and they took our ideas to make this new car. But they only took a small portion of them so that they've only made a five percent step. So what's the point?"
"In my view the way they went about it was quite dishonest. All of us competing car builders had to sign our ideas away. All our ideas went into a pot and we had to sign a document saying that if we didn't win the contract they kept our ideas.
"That's one thing, but the sad part is they awarded the contract to a racing car building company in Italy who are just building another in a range of racing cars. It's a lot like their other cars and they're not using all the ideas that we put forward. They're only scratching the surface and, as I say, making a five percent step. They completely ignored a lot of what we suggested. They've just done what they felt like.
"All of our ideas and Lola's ideas and Swift's and the Delta Wing group's ideas went in and they took our ideas to make this new car. But they only took a small portion of them so that they've only made a five percent step. So what's the point?"
12-05-2011, 06:27 PM
#7
I guess I'm disappointed in the new car. I want to understand with all the money thrown at Dallara (including the state of Indiana), how can the produce a car that's marginally faster than the previous car. Considering the Swift that Formula Nippon uses is a lot faster around Motegi, can we just call an audible and use that car with different wings, and slightly more power?
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12-15-2011, 08:55 PM
#8
I guess I'm disappointed in the new car. I want to understand with all the money thrown at Dallara (including the state of Indiana), how can the produce a car that's marginally faster than the previous car. Considering the Swift that Formula Nippon uses is a lot faster around Motegi, can we just call an audible and use that car with different wings, and slightly more power?
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12-29-2011, 08:32 AM
#9
ENGINE MANUFACTURERS UPDATE
Chevrolet: Chevrolet could have one additional engine supply contract to announce next month.
Chevrolet’s Confirmed 2012 Teams:
• Andretti Autosport (2 to 4 cars)
• KV Racing (3 cars)
• Panther Racing (1 to 2 cars)
• Team Penske (3 cars)
Honda: Honda has at least one team lease announcement remaining, with a second growing closer to becoming a reality. We’re told any/all announcements will come in December, at the earliest.
Honda’s Confirmed 2012 Teams:
• A.J. Foyt Racing (1 car)
• Sam Schmidt Motorsports (1-2 cars)
• Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing (2 cars)
• Target Chip Ganassi Racing/Ganassi Racing (4 cars)
Lotus: Lotus could provide engines for any/all of the teams still in need of a powerplant.
Lotus’ Confirmed 2012 Teams:
• Bryan Herta Autosport (1 car)
• Dreyer & Reinbold Racing (2 cars)
• HVM Racing (1 car)
• Michael Shank Racing (1 car)
Teams Without A Confirmed Engine Contract:
• Conquest Racing (1 car)
• Dale Coyne Racing (2 cars)
• Dragon Racing (1 car)
• Ed Carpenter Racing (1 car)
• Sarah Fisher Racing (1 car)
Chevrolet: Chevrolet could have one additional engine supply contract to announce next month.
Chevrolet’s Confirmed 2012 Teams:
• Andretti Autosport (2 to 4 cars)
• KV Racing (3 cars)
• Panther Racing (1 to 2 cars)
• Team Penske (3 cars)
Honda: Honda has at least one team lease announcement remaining, with a second growing closer to becoming a reality. We’re told any/all announcements will come in December, at the earliest.
Honda’s Confirmed 2012 Teams:
• A.J. Foyt Racing (1 car)
• Sam Schmidt Motorsports (1-2 cars)
• Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing (2 cars)
• Target Chip Ganassi Racing/Ganassi Racing (4 cars)
Lotus: Lotus could provide engines for any/all of the teams still in need of a powerplant.
Lotus’ Confirmed 2012 Teams:
• Bryan Herta Autosport (1 car)
• Dreyer & Reinbold Racing (2 cars)
• HVM Racing (1 car)
• Michael Shank Racing (1 car)
Teams Without A Confirmed Engine Contract:
• Conquest Racing (1 car)
• Dale Coyne Racing (2 cars)
• Dragon Racing (1 car)
• Ed Carpenter Racing (1 car)
• Sarah Fisher Racing (1 car)