With all the talk of a common engine, isn't this
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Oct 21 2008, 01:17 PM
Actually, by retiring early he gets to install a brand new engine, with no grid penalty.
Clearly they are breaking the spirit of the 2 race engine rule here, since HK was already out of the points, they retired him for no reason but claim a "problem"....
History shows that McLaren would never, ever think about doing something that was even close to cheating or bending of the rules...
How can the FIA allow this to happen?????
They must have forgotten to check with Ferrari....
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Originally Posted by matrix,Oct 21 2008, 11:55 AM
Even worse abuse of the rules !
Clearly they are breaking the spirit of the 2 race engine rule here, since HK was already out of the points, they retired him for no reason but claim a "problem".... History shows that McLaren would never, ever think about doing something that was even close to cheating or bending of the rules...
How can the FIA allow this to happen?????
They must have forgotten to check with Ferrari....
Clearly they are breaking the spirit of the 2 race engine rule here, since HK was already out of the points, they retired him for no reason but claim a "problem"....
History shows that McLaren would never, ever think about doing something that was even close to cheating or bending of the rules... How can the FIA allow this to happen?????
They must have forgotten to check with Ferrari....
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Originally Posted by JonBoy,Oct 23 2008, 08:28 AM
Just as a thought, is it possible they could repaint HK's car with Lewis' numbers and such, and let Lewis race on a new engine? 
You are evil.... But we are talking McCheaters
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http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news...023101059.shtml
A single engine regime in Formula One could have moved Toyota, and like-minded manufacturers, to quit the sport.
It is believed that, at FIA President Max Mosley's meeting in Geneva this week with FOTA figures, alternative cost-cutting plans were put in place.
But these agreements may have preceded concrete threats by carmaker teams including Toyota, which was horrified at the concept of racing with an engine it did not itself devise.
"For Toyota it would be a reason to leave Formula One," Toyota Motorsport President John Howett, who accompanied FOTA President Luca di Montezemolo to the Geneva meeting, is quoted as saying by sport1.de.
A single engine regime in Formula One could have moved Toyota, and like-minded manufacturers, to quit the sport.
It is believed that, at FIA President Max Mosley's meeting in Geneva this week with FOTA figures, alternative cost-cutting plans were put in place.
But these agreements may have preceded concrete threats by carmaker teams including Toyota, which was horrified at the concept of racing with an engine it did not itself devise.
"For Toyota it would be a reason to leave Formula One," Toyota Motorsport President John Howett, who accompanied FOTA President Luca di Montezemolo to the Geneva meeting, is quoted as saying by sport1.de.
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^not suprised at all. i think this FOTA is a very good thing. i think it will help the teams get things they want and i think their wants are similiar to what F1 fans want. it's about time they stepped up to BE and MM.
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http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...27090835.shtml
Clear signs are emerging that Toyota could be contemplating its future in Formula One.
The Japanese giant, which entered the sport in 2002, was perhaps the most enraged among F1's manufacturer ranks at the proposal of a single engine formula.
Even though that prospect has receded, Toyota Motorsport President John Howett recently admitted the move 'would be a reason' for the Cologne based team to quit F1.
Now, in the pages of the German magazine Auto Motor und Sport, it is suggested that Toyota sees returning to Le Mans-style prototype sports car racing as an alternative to F1 beyond 2010.
At this year's Le Mans 24 hour race, for instance, a dozen ununiformed Toyota engineers were present, armed with cameras and reportedly sizing up the current competitors.
Additionally, at the American Le Mans Series race in Detroit in August, Toyota officials met with representatives of the series' organising body ACO.
"We would like to go back to Le Mans," Toyota's F1 team boss Tadashi Yamashina confirms. "The final decision is budgetary.
"Under the present economic conditions, it is unlikely that we could do Formula One and Le Mans in a parallel fashion," he explained.
Clear signs are emerging that Toyota could be contemplating its future in Formula One.
The Japanese giant, which entered the sport in 2002, was perhaps the most enraged among F1's manufacturer ranks at the proposal of a single engine formula.
Even though that prospect has receded, Toyota Motorsport President John Howett recently admitted the move 'would be a reason' for the Cologne based team to quit F1.
Now, in the pages of the German magazine Auto Motor und Sport, it is suggested that Toyota sees returning to Le Mans-style prototype sports car racing as an alternative to F1 beyond 2010.
At this year's Le Mans 24 hour race, for instance, a dozen ununiformed Toyota engineers were present, armed with cameras and reportedly sizing up the current competitors.
Additionally, at the American Le Mans Series race in Detroit in August, Toyota officials met with representatives of the series' organising body ACO.
"We would like to go back to Le Mans," Toyota's F1 team boss Tadashi Yamashina confirms. "The final decision is budgetary.
"Under the present economic conditions, it is unlikely that we could do Formula One and Le Mans in a parallel fashion," he explained.
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Originally Posted by Birel186,Oct 27 2008, 06:07 AM
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...27090835.shtml
Clear signs are emerging that Toyota could be contemplating its future in Formula One.
The Japanese giant, which entered the sport in 2002, was perhaps the most enraged among F1's manufacturer ranks at the proposal of a single engine formula.
Even though that prospect has receded, Toyota Motorsport President John Howett recently admitted the move 'would be a reason' for the Cologne based team to quit F1.
Now, in the pages of the German magazine Auto Motor und Sport, it is suggested that Toyota sees returning to Le Mans-style prototype sports car racing as an alternative to F1 beyond 2010.
At this year's Le Mans 24 hour race, for instance, a dozen ununiformed Toyota engineers were present, armed with cameras and reportedly sizing up the current competitors.
Additionally, at the American Le Mans Series race in Detroit in August, Toyota officials met with representatives of the series' organising body ACO.
"We would like to go back to Le Mans," Toyota's F1 team boss Tadashi Yamashina confirms. "The final decision is budgetary.
"Under the present economic conditions, it is unlikely that we could do Formula One and Le Mans in a parallel fashion," he explained.
Clear signs are emerging that Toyota could be contemplating its future in Formula One.
The Japanese giant, which entered the sport in 2002, was perhaps the most enraged among F1's manufacturer ranks at the proposal of a single engine formula.
Even though that prospect has receded, Toyota Motorsport President John Howett recently admitted the move 'would be a reason' for the Cologne based team to quit F1.
Now, in the pages of the German magazine Auto Motor und Sport, it is suggested that Toyota sees returning to Le Mans-style prototype sports car racing as an alternative to F1 beyond 2010.
At this year's Le Mans 24 hour race, for instance, a dozen ununiformed Toyota engineers were present, armed with cameras and reportedly sizing up the current competitors.
Additionally, at the American Le Mans Series race in Detroit in August, Toyota officials met with representatives of the series' organising body ACO.
"We would like to go back to Le Mans," Toyota's F1 team boss Tadashi Yamashina confirms. "The final decision is budgetary.
"Under the present economic conditions, it is unlikely that we could do Formula One and Le Mans in a parallel fashion," he explained.
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