F1 penalty woes continue
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Jarno claims that LH slowed down and it seemed like he was pulling over to the side, which is why he thought he could pass him. Jarno was passed by LH when he spun off the track. They did not show this on TV though.
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Melbourne - Toyota are to appeal the 25-second penalty imposed on driver Jarno Trulli after the Italian was deemed to have overtaken under safety car conditions during Sunday's season-opening Australian Grand Prix in Melbourne. Trulli slid off the track in the safety car phase which forced Lewis Hamilton in a McLaren-Mercedes to pass him. Trulli then moved ahead of the world champion again, but the stewards deemed this move illegal under safety car conditions.
"Race stewards subsequently handed Jarno a 25-second penalty for overtaking under safety car conditions, but the team has filed an appeal within the proscribed time period," said Toyota in a statement.
The decision moved Hamilton up to third while Trulli was demoted to 12th. Motorsport's ruling body FIA confirmed to German Press Agency
"Race stewards subsequently handed Jarno a 25-second penalty for overtaking under safety car conditions, but the team has filed an appeal within the proscribed time period," said Toyota in a statement.
The decision moved Hamilton up to third while Trulli was demoted to 12th. Motorsport's ruling body FIA confirmed to German Press Agency
This situation needs to be investigated, the 25-second penalty sounds totally unfair to JT.
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Originally Posted by Triple-H,Mar 30 2009, 09:13 AM
So what's the story about JT and LH, I have yet to dive into that, but that too seems like a questionable decision...
-like an idiot, Trulli spins off track
-Hamilton passes him
-Trulli comes back on track behind Hamilton
-Hamilton slows down and moves to the side
-Trulli repasses him
Hamilton even admitted that his team told him to let Trulli past. what is Trulli supposed to do?
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stewarding of f1 races has been a long time problem of inconsistency. is there a unified group of stewards traveling to each race to oversee the local stewards? with how many rule changes that come about during a season it would do the sport well to have the same stewards for all races. or does this already happen?
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Originally Posted by Triple-H,Mar 30 2009, 07:41 AM
The stewards are track dependent, and the FiA seems to not want to take any real steps to create a team employed by or regulated by the FiA so there would be consistency.
This is just another thing I cannot fathom, how can the FiA/Bernie/Max be so clueless?
We have chatted about this before, and although I'm not a fan of football or baseball as I don't know squat about them, I do believe those leagues have a controlling group of referees that are consistent from venue to venue. You would think F1 would at least have the same thing...
This is just another thing I cannot fathom, how can the FiA/Bernie/Max be so clueless?
We have chatted about this before, and although I'm not a fan of football or baseball as I don't know squat about them, I do believe those leagues have a controlling group of referees that are consistent from venue to venue. You would think F1 would at least have the same thing...
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Originally Posted by ytdlite,Mar 30 2009, 10:48 AM
all the major leagues in north america have pro groups officiating their sport.
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Originally Posted by Triple-H,Mar 30 2009, 07:53 AM
Apparently this concept is too simple, that must be why it flies right over Bernie's head...
The only other pro sport I watch is NHL hockey, and if a goal is under review, it's always done by the same people in Toronto. Easy! You have a guy or guys who needs to review the goal. Every game is televised, multiple angles, so you have the guys sitting there looking at TV screens.
Oh yeah - Vettel should have parked it with one wheel hanging off the car. I think I agree with Brundle's assessment too - both Vettel and Kubica played it too tough. Racing incident, leave it at that. Too bad about the grid penalty for Vettel. Was it avoidable? What about the beginning of the race? Was all that avoidable?
