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Old May 27, 2008 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by timrocks311,May 27 2008, 06:44 AM
just because poor old Sutil and Force India are backmarkers
But AS was clearly not in a backmarker position, he was up front running in the points, doing better than both Hondas...
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Old May 27, 2008 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BEG2BME,May 26 2008, 07:06 AM
Shame on Kimi for what he did at the Monaco GP! Adrian Sutil worked so hard to come up to P4 and points that were so crucial to the team and Kimi, lost it under braking and crashes into him. What a SHAME !?!? World Champion my ass !! I hope he gets penalized for doing what he did. That was sad to see what happened to Sutil.
If you look at the replay, it was clearly not Kimi's fault. Poor Sutil was just a victim at the wrong place, at the wrong time.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple-H,May 27 2008, 04:54 AM
But AS was clearly not in a backmarker position, he was up front running in the points, doing better than both Hondas...
yeah i understand that, it's just that people want to burn Kimi for crashing into Sutil. why? is Sutil special? it didnt benefit Kimi and it clearly wasnt on purpose. Kovalainen crashed into Button at the same corner...where are the people saying "penalize Heiki!"
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Old May 27, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple-H,May 27 2008, 05:53 AM
I totally agree. My take is AS was going in way too hot, KR was chasing him looking for a chance to pass, KR discovered AS was going in too hot before AS did. KR got on the brakes and it was just too much braking given the lack of traction and the car slipped out from under him. And even with the great car control, AS was in the way and KR got him. I suspect if KR had not lost it, AS would have straight-lined that corner. And to your point, if AS had made the corner, KR would have had the needed run-off area to get his car back under control.

When it comes to rear end collisions, this one was rather tame and really looked like a racing incident.
Damn, let's all defend Little Kimi....

AS and KR were both trying to outbrake each other. But AS held his car together while KR didn't. Basically, AS took it to the limit while KR took it past the limit. And you guys are complementing KR and blaming AS? Unbelievable.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,May 27 2008, 09:35 AM
Damn, let's all defend Little Kimi....

AS and KR were both trying to outbrake each other. But AS held his car together while KR didn't. Basically, AS took it to the limit while KR took it past the limit. And you guys are complementing KR and blaming AS? Unbelievable.
Hey that's just racing. Sutil isn't special and Kimi wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't try to overtake him.

If you looked at the replay, it seemed like Kimi's right rear went through a wet spot as he braked, lost it, did a great job in recovering it but slid into Sutil.

This is racing and shit happens. I feel bad for Sutil but asking for Kimi to be punished is absurd.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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^^^ KR drives for craparri, the crapfosi (even though half of the crapfosi also love other teams) will always defend the craparri drivers. It is only the Italian press who stab there drivers and team in the back when they suck!!!!

as I hate craparii, but hate Louise snivley hamilton far more, dont forgetthis:
last yr at this time, KR only had 1 win. canada will not be a KR fest either, but look for the drunk to win 4 out of 6 once they return to Europe.
Look for Louise to chock in england, as he cant handle the pressure at his home race, just like last year.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 09:25 AM
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Old May 27, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mav,May 27 2008, 10:09 AM
I feel bad for Sutil but asking for Kimi to be punished is absurd.
I didn't ask for him to be penalized. But this "blame the victim" stuff is getting laid on a bit thick. "If only AS hadn't been there, Kimi wouldn't have crashed into him. Clearly it's AS's fault...."
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Old May 27, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,May 27 2008, 10:48 AM
I didn't ask for him to be penalized. But this "blame the victim" stuff is getting laid on a bit thick. "If only AS hadn't been there, Kimi wouldn't have crashed into him. Clearly it's AS's fault...."
I didn't say you did. I was referring to what BEG2BME said.

No one is blaming the victim. IMO no one is to blame, except the weather and bad luck.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mav,May 27 2008, 01:12 PM
No one is blaming the victim. IMO no one is to blame, except the weather and bad luck.
Exactly.
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