Jenson Button....the TRUE KING of England
Originally Posted by GPMike,May 11 2009, 02:07 PM
That's why Jenson radioed to his engineer to tell Rubens to hurry the **** up because he was going slow.
If this were a Ferrari or McLaren doing it and we tried to apply logic you would never accept that.
Live with the same silly standards you impose upon us.
It was team orders, accept it, your so called great team does stuff just like the others...
Originally Posted by matrix,May 11 2009, 02:31 PM
I don't believe that, I believe that RB is the same person he was when he was at Ferrari and he will follow the same formula for success - that includes team orders early to lock up the season...your opinion my vary...

Nice.
Originally Posted by Triple-H,May 11 2009, 03:07 PM
Mike, you are not able to apply logic to this, it was team orders, accept it...
If this were a Ferrari or McLaren doing it and we tried to apply logic you would never accept that.
Live with the same silly standards you impose upon us.
It was team orders, accept it, your so called great team does stuff just like the others...

If this were a Ferrari or McLaren doing it and we tried to apply logic you would never accept that.
Live with the same silly standards you impose upon us.
It was team orders, accept it, your so called great team does stuff just like the others...

Nice try.
Originally Posted by matrix,May 11 2009, 02:58 PM
Yes, once on the harder tires, FM times dropped off. Before that FM was faster than MW for 24 of 43 laps - used your lap times to figure that out.
This is where I am getting the Ferrari have closed the gap quite a bit and are basically on RBR's lap time now.
This is where I am getting the Ferrari have closed the gap quite a bit and are basically on RBR's lap time now.
Originally Posted by S2k007,May 11 2009, 04:25 PM
There was on team orders. Ruben's pace was just not the pace he needed and what was predicted on his 3 stop strategy. It's as simple as that.
Originally Posted by matrix,May 11 2009, 07:07 PM
Then if RB knew Ruben's pace was not quick enough, why didn't RB switch Ruben to a 2 stop strategy also?
I don't think Ruben took orders, not knowingly anyway (but I somehow doubt Brawn predicted that Ruben would start sucking major ass at lap 50+). He seemed pretty genuinely mad at the end of the race, blaming everything except himself, unless you think in addition to being a pro f1 driver, he's also a contender for an oscar. He even made it clear in a post-Spain interview that he will ignore team orders from here on out if he thinks he's being sidelined.



