New points system proposal
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Mar 17 2009, 10:06 PM
Seems like last year the stewards did everything they could to penalize anybody who tried to make exciting passes.
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Originally Posted by Elistan,Mar 17 2009, 09:57 PM
Well, one possible result is that the drivers with a chance at the championship will absolutely not settle for second place. Which might lead to some spectacularly optimistic passing attempts. Which might lead to less parade laps that so many people complain about, but also increase the number of crashes and mid-corner bumps.
And that reminds me......
What did the McLaren say to the Ferrari in the pits?
SMACK!!!!!!!!
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Hey! look, the season has not started and Bernie is jinxing BGP already.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73761
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73761
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Interesting perspective this from JB
"Button is concerned that it will be difficult to explain the new method to casual fans - and that it could lead to titles being decided earlier."
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73764
"Button is concerned that it will be difficult to explain the new method to casual fans - and that it could lead to titles being decided earlier."
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73764
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Originally Posted by aashish2,Mar 18 2009, 05:59 AM
Interesting perspective this from JB
"Button is concerned that it will be difficult to explain the new method to casual fans - and that it could lead to titles being decided earlier."
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73764
"Button is concerned that it will be difficult to explain the new method to casual fans - and that it could lead to titles being decided earlier."
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73764
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oh yeah, and with all the teams looking more competitive this year, it could mean more teams/drivers (than just Ferrari and McLaren) are fighting for the championship. in that case, it seems like the points would be more and more valuable and relavent. but for the drivers anyway, who gives a shit about points anymore.
god, the more i think about it...this is the dumbest fuk'n decision ever!
god, the more i think about it...this is the dumbest fuk'n decision ever!
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new rule 
so lets say
if hamilton wins the 1st 6 races of the season and DNF the rest of the year, and different drivers all finish 1 for the rest, but massa finishes in 2nd for every race, hamilton still wins?
hamilton would have 60 points massa 144, in my book massa wins
i realize that the example above would never happen but i dont like it. points work, stop trying to kill this sport.
so lets say
if hamilton wins the 1st 6 races of the season and DNF the rest of the year, and different drivers all finish 1 for the rest, but massa finishes in 2nd for every race, hamilton still wins?
hamilton would have 60 points massa 144, in my book massa wins
i realize that the example above would never happen but i dont like it. points work, stop trying to kill this sport.
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In the saddest way possible, this just sort of says it all...
Like they were not really racing when points were involved.
Man, he is such a dolt.
Ecclestone praises F1 championship changes
The Canadian Press
3/18/2009 10:32:58 AM
LONDON - Formula One boss Bernie Ecclestone has praised the decision to determine the sport's champion by race wins instead of total points, saying it will encourage overtaking and "real racing."
FIA, the sport's governing body, revised the scoring system for F1's championship Tuesday, with the number of Grand Prix victories now deciding the championship rather than accumulated points.
"What it does is make the drivers bloody well go for the win rather than settle for second," Ecclestone said Wednesday, according to autosport.com. "It will be real racing, which is good for the fans and the sport."
With the new system, Ferrari's Felipe Massa would have been crowned 2008 champion over Lewis Hamilton of McLaren because he led 6-5 in race wins. Hamilton won the title by one point.
The Formula One Teams Association expressed disappointment and concern that FIA's decisions were made "in a unilateral manner."
The 10 teams had wanted to modify the points totals to better reflect the importance of winning a race.
"Everything that is proposed, the teams always say forget it - it is just par for the course," Ecclestone said.
FIA also approved further changes to cut costs in the face of the economic crisis, including a voluntary budget cap on teams.
"We are going to restrict teams that want to be covered by that cap to 30 million pounds (C$43 million), but we are going to try to help them with technical advantages. Then some of the big teams will ask why they are spending 300 million," Ecclestone said. "In the end the truth of the matter is we should just have a cap for everybody, although maybe 30 million is a bit too low."
http://www.tsn.ca/ctvnews/?id=271670
The Canadian Press
3/18/2009 10:32:58 AM
LONDON - Formula One boss Bernie Ecclestone has praised the decision to determine the sport's champion by race wins instead of total points, saying it will encourage overtaking and "real racing."
FIA, the sport's governing body, revised the scoring system for F1's championship Tuesday, with the number of Grand Prix victories now deciding the championship rather than accumulated points.
"What it does is make the drivers bloody well go for the win rather than settle for second," Ecclestone said Wednesday, according to autosport.com. "It will be real racing, which is good for the fans and the sport."
With the new system, Ferrari's Felipe Massa would have been crowned 2008 champion over Lewis Hamilton of McLaren because he led 6-5 in race wins. Hamilton won the title by one point.
The Formula One Teams Association expressed disappointment and concern that FIA's decisions were made "in a unilateral manner."
The 10 teams had wanted to modify the points totals to better reflect the importance of winning a race.
"Everything that is proposed, the teams always say forget it - it is just par for the course," Ecclestone said.
FIA also approved further changes to cut costs in the face of the economic crisis, including a voluntary budget cap on teams.
"We are going to restrict teams that want to be covered by that cap to 30 million pounds (C$43 million), but we are going to try to help them with technical advantages. Then some of the big teams will ask why they are spending 300 million," Ecclestone said. "In the end the truth of the matter is we should just have a cap for everybody, although maybe 30 million is a bit too low."
http://www.tsn.ca/ctvnews/?id=271670
Like they were not really racing when points were involved.
Man, he is such a dolt.
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Originally Posted by Triple-H,Mar 18 2009, 12:28 PM
In the saddest way possible, this just sort of says it all...
Like they were not really racing when points were involved.
Man, he is such a dolt.
Like they were not really racing when points were involved.
Man, he is such a dolt.
I dont agree with the way they're doing it but trying to encourage drivers to win races is not a bad idea. A 12-7-5-4-3-2-1 might have been a better alternative but whatever.
