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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 08:33 AM
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Glad youre ok man. Sucks to see a crash that causes damage to the car and/or yourself. Hope youre back at it in no time
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 08:39 AM
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DAMN! That's unfortunate.

Glad you're ok. Cars can be fixed and replaced. If anything, you'll come back a better driver from all of this.

I can't wait to see the rebuild with the aero and the lap times that follow.

On a completely different note, how was the blow-by? Did the drilled upper baffle plate help?
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 08:42 AM
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You have a great attitude.
At least it wasn't the gt4.
Cant wait to see the rebuild.
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Bullwings
DAMN! That's unfortunate.

Glad you're ok. Cars can be fixed and replaced. If anything, you'll come back a better driver from all of this.

I can't wait to see the rebuild with the aero and the lap times that follow.

On a completely different note, how was the blow-by? Did the drilled upper baffle plate help?
Yup. Drilling the baffle solved everything. And I noticed my car wasn't burning oil as fast on the street either. Which probably means oil was just making its way through the PCV valve just driving around on the street.
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by radiantm3
No matter what actually happened, the big takeaway for me is that I should get track insurance because no matter how comfortable or confident I feel in my cars, anything can still happen. And I'm not saying that I'm not at fault in this situation. I honestly just don't know. Based on my track record and how well I am normally able to read and react to a car, something just feels really weird in this situation. But I'll never know unless I spot some clear mechanical issue that would have caused this to happen. Maybe I was just tired and not 100% on top of it. Or maybe it was just an unsave-able situation. There are just too many variables at play.
If you can't afford to throw it away, and you aren't competing in a timed competition, then you definitely should invest in track insurance. It was a saveable situation. You overcorrected the initial oversteer. It happens. Fix it and get back out there.
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 09:22 AM
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Sorry to hear man but glad to hear you're alright and the car is fixable. If you haven't hit something you aren't trying hard enough is my thinking.. Hard to say what happened from the video. Maybe the curbing upset the car more/differently this time around and you were tired..?

Also, do you really think track insurance is necessary because of this one incident? Out of all the track time you've had, I can't help but wonder if all that money towards premiums could buy you a whole new s2000 at this point..
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by King Tut
Originally Posted by radiantm3' timestamp='1475079630' post='24071759
No matter what actually happened, the big takeaway for me is that I should get track insurance because no matter how comfortable or confident I feel in my cars, anything can still happen. And I'm not saying that I'm not at fault in this situation. I honestly just don't know. Based on my track record and how well I am normally able to read and react to a car, something just feels really weird in this situation. But I'll never know unless I spot some clear mechanical issue that would have caused this to happen. Maybe I was just tired and not 100% on top of it. Or maybe it was just an unsave-able situation. There are just too many variables at play.
If you can't afford to throw it away, and you aren't competing in a timed competition, then you definitely should invest in track insurance. It was a saveable situation. You overcorrected the initial oversteer. It happens. Fix it and get back out there.
Andrie Hartanto thinks differently. He thinks the snap was way too abrupt and might be a setup issue. But he knows my driving since he's coached me and ridden with me few times. It's easy to say I overcorrected based on the video, but I do have good car control and a pretty good ability to feel exactly what the car is doing and how much steering to give. BUT I'm also not too experienced on sticky tires like this. I'm far more used to sliding around on street tires. The car was sliding nicely the whole time I was giving steering input to the left, but then at the last second it instantly hooked up and hurled the car to the left. It probably wouldn't have happened on RS3's. So in that sense, yes my lack of experience sliding around in sticky tires like the RE71R's bit me, but I definitely wasn't over correcting in a way that makes it an obvious mistake. I've just never experienced car go from sliding to that much grip so abruptly before.
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 09:33 AM
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Sorry to see this bud... Glad to hear your OK.
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowTeg
Sorry to hear man but glad to hear you're alright and the car is fixable. If you haven't hit something you aren't trying hard enough is my thinking.. Hard to say what happened from the video. Maybe the curbing upset the car more/differently this time around and you were tired..?

Also, do you really think track insurance is necessary because of this one incident? Out of all the track time you've had, I can't help but wonder if all that money towards premiums could buy you a whole new s2000 at this point..
This incident doesn't feel like a clear mistake on my part. I'm used to sliding the car and catching it and it's always progressive. The fact that it totally caught me off guard just shows that anything can happen. A years' worth of track insurance to cover my S2K and GT4 is about $3600. Seems expensive, but right now the cost to fix my car might be at least double or triple that. And knowing that it could potentially happen again (maybe even in the GT4???) I won't be able to push the cars hard without knowing I have insurance to fix the S2K AGAIN or worse, the GT4. And my S2K isn't a ratty track car. I put a lot of money into it because I like it so much, and I bought a really clean car as well. Just seems like it's for the best. If I'm not pushing the cars as hard as I can, I'd rather not go to the track at all. I'm honestly only having fun when I'm improving my driving and lap times are dropping.
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by radiantm3
Andrie Hartanto thinks differently. He thinks the snap was way too abrupt and might be a setup issue. But he knows my driving since he's coached me and ridden with me few times. It's easy to say I overcorrected based on the video, but I do have good car control and a pretty good ability to feel exactly what the car is doing and how much steering to give. BUT I'm also not too experienced on sticky tires like this. I'm far more used to sliding around on street tires. The car was sliding nicely the whole time I was giving steering input to the left, but then at the last second it instantly hooked up and hurled the car to the left. It probably wouldn't have happened on RS3's. So in that sense, yes my lack of experience sliding around in sticky tires like the RE71R's bit me, but I definitely wasn't over correcting in a way that makes it an obvious mistake. I've just never experienced car go from sliding to that much grip so abruptly before.
You can blame setup all you want. The driver is the one that puts the inputs in and places the car on track. The end result is that when the car gripped back up, you had the tires pointed towards that wall, and that is where the car went. That is the danger of correcting slides and being on the edge and using curbs and dropping wheels. Once those tires grip back up because the suspension is settled and the tires are on the track, the car is going to go where the steering tells it too, so you have to anticipate that and not overcorrect the initial slide. I'd rather see a student spin out and go two feet in by not correcting enough than to overcorrect and send us shooting across the track.
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